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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
For more on the DieselStation Car of the Year '08 competition, please see this thread.
Chrysler Town & Country/Dodge Grand Caravan Base MSRP: $21,740 (Grand Caravan), $22,510 (Town & Country) Available Engines: 3.3 liter OHV 12-valve V6 with 175 HP and 205 ft.-lbs. of torque, 3.8 liter OHV 12-valve V6 with 197 HP and 230 ft.-lbs. of torque, 4.0 liter SOHC 24-valve V6 with 253 HP and 262 ft.-lbs. of torque. Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic (3.3 only) or 6-speed automatic transmission (N/A on 3.3) Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive EPA Fuel Economy: 17 City/24 Highway (3.3), 16/23 (3.8 & 4.0) Curb Weight: 4321-4621 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() Kia Rondo Base MSRP: $16,395 Available Engines: 2.4 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 162 HP and 164 ft.-lbs. of torque, 2.7 liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 182 HP and 182 ft.-lbs. of torque. Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic with manual shifting mode (2.4 only) or 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode (2.7 only) Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive EPA Fuel Economy: 21 City/29 Highway (2.4), 20/27 (2.7) Curb Weight: 3333-3511 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() Saab 9-3 Sportcombi Base MSRP: $29,250 Available Engines: 2.0 liter turbocharged DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 210 HP and 221 ft.-lbs. of torque, 2.8 liter turbocharged DOHC 24-valve V6 with 255 HP and 258 ft.-lbs. of torque (280/295 on AWD). Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual or 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode (2.0T only) or 6-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode (V6 only) Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive or all-wheel drive EPA Fuel Economy: 19 City/29 Highway (2.0T 6MT), 18/24 (2.0T 5AT), 16/26 (V6 FWD 6AT), 15/24 (V6 FWD 6MT) (AWD mileage N/A) Curb Weight: 3300-3690 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen Base MSRP: $17,500 (est.) Available Engines: 2.5 liter DOHC 20-valve inline-5 with 170 HP and 177 ft.-lbs. of torque, 2.0 liter turbocharged direct-injection DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 200 HP and 207 ft.-lbs. of torque. Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual (2.5 only), 6-speed automatic with manual shifting mode (2.5 only), 6-speed manual (2.0T only), or 6-speed dual-clutch sequential manual transmission (2.0T only) Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive EPA Fuel Economy: 22 City/29 Highway (2.0T DSG), 21/29 (2.5 5MT & 6AT & 2.0T 6MT) Curb Weight: 3250-3350 lbs. (est.) ![]() ![]() ![]() Volvo V70 Base MSRP: $32,465 Available Engines: 3.2 liter DOHC 24-valve inline-6 with 235 HP and 236 ft.-lbs. of torque. Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic with manual shifting mode Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive EPA Fuel Economy: 16 City/24 Highway Curb Weight: 3527 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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![]() IT SLIDES! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 6,345 Joined: 5-February 07 From: Maine Member No.: 3,670 Car: Volkswagen R32 Mk V ![]() |
Wow, this is really, really hard between the new V70 and the VW Sportwagen. I'm going with the V70, just because I love the redesign. That pop-up screen is kinda cool and the new rear end looks awesome.
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![]() Hipster ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 11-October 06 From: New York Member No.: 3,105 ![]() |
I went with the V70, because in terms of style it beats anything here. The 9-3 comes in at a close second for me.
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V70, it would have been the Jetta if the diesel was included
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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
Diesel's pushed back to the 2009 model year it looks like.
I went with the VW because it gets good mileage in all its forms (the V70's is abysmal!) and because it's affordable and has tons of space (66.9 cubic feet is within spitting distance of our old Mazda Tribute's 70 cubic feet, and that thing was cavernous). I would've gone for the Saab but honestly the VW has a nicer interior at 2/3rds (or less) of the price. |
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![]() Pit Mechanic ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,304 Joined: 21-November 03 Member No.: 192 ![]() |
Jetta wagen. The V70 and the Sportcombi are nice but really expensive.
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![]() Race Driver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,587 Joined: 2-October 07 From: Canada Member No.: 4,080 Car: 2009 Subaru Legacy ![]() |
I took the Saab.
It's so freaking good looking inside and out (one of the best looking cars on sale)! Comes with AWD and a six speed manual (I really think my Impreza could use an extra cog for the highway)! What more could you ask for? However if my family decides to get bigger, I could see us getting a Rondo as a city car... |
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![]() ... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,841 Joined: 1-July 04 From: PA Member No.: 872 Car: MKV GTI ![]() |
Diesel's pushed back to the 2009 model year it looks like. I went with the VW because it gets good mileage in all its forms (the V70's is abysmal!) and because it's affordable and has tons of space (66.9 cubic feet is within spitting distance of our old Mazda Tribute's 70 cubic feet, and that thing was cavernous). I would've gone for the Saab but honestly the VW has a nicer interior at 2/3rds (or less) of the price. what? no diesel till 2009? WTF!!!!!!!!! ![]() but even without the diesel MKV wins for me, just for the fact that there is large aftermarket for the MKV already. |
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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
Well there was a huge fire at the factory that makes the new 2.0 TDI and it destroyed tens of thousands of engines, so it's been delayed.
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![]() ... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,841 Joined: 1-July 04 From: PA Member No.: 872 Car: MKV GTI ![]() |
I thought that was the 2.5L factory, hence no sport wagen til 2008...
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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
As far as I can tell it was the TDI, or else the TDI would've been in the Sedan for 2008 and it won't be.
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![]() Posting God ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 11,366 Joined: 30-January 05 From: Dubai Member No.: 1,451 ![]() |
I voted Saab. It's one of the sexiest wagons around, and is probably the most fun to drive of this lot.
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![]() The Devil's Cabbana Boy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,283 Joined: 11-June 04 From: The People's Democratic Republic of McKhaosylvania Member No.: 831 Car: Outlander knock-off ![]() |
I never thought I would say this, but I vote Town&Country.
I rode in one a few weeks ago, and it's amazing. The space is ample, the ride is comfortable, the seats are comfortable and the interiors are good. |
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![]() Latent racecar driver ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 31-January 05 From: So-Cal Member No.: 1,455 Car: 2006 Slobalt, '65 Karmann Ghia ![]() |
I voted for the Saab. I think it's a fine looking car and for some reason I felt more drawn to it than the others in the poll. Maybe because it is born from jets.
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The Saab because its aesthetically pleasing.
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![]() ... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,841 Joined: 1-July 04 From: PA Member No.: 872 Car: MKV GTI ![]() |
i was at a VW dealer for some warranty work, and the salesman said April for the new TDI
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![]() Race Driver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,455 Joined: 9-August 06 Member No.: 2,585 ![]() |
No one plans on selling these new wagons in the US do they? I went for the Saab...shit that thing is crazy looking.
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![]() ... ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,841 Joined: 1-July 04 From: PA Member No.: 872 Car: MKV GTI ![]() |
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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
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![]() Pit Mechanic ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,092 Joined: 3-June 07 From: California Member No.: 3,913 Car: 2006 Mazda3s Grand Touring Hatchback ![]() |
Why is there no Honda Odyssey if there is going to be Caravan. IMO Odyssey is way better, but regardless the Saab has my vote.
Edit: Scratch that, should have read the rules first. |
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