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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
For more on the DieselStation Car of the Year '08 competition, please see this thread.
Chevrolet Cobalt SS Base MSRP: $21,500 (est.) Available Engines: 2.0 liter turbocharged direct-injection DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 260 HP and 260 ft.-lbs. of torque. Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual transmission with “no-lift shift” Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive (limited-slip differential optional) EPA Fuel Economy: 20 City/28 Highway (based on HHR SS model) Curb Weight: 3000 lbs. (est.) ![]() ![]() ![]() Chevrolet HHR SS Base MSRP: $22,375 Available Engines: 2.0 liter turbocharged direct-injection DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 260 HP and 260 ft.-lbs. of torque (235/223 with automatic). Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual with “no-lift shit” or 4-speed automatic transmission Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive (limited-slip differential optional on 5MT) EPA Fuel Economy: 22 City/28 Highway (4AT), 20/28 (5MT) Curb Weight: 3280 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() Dodge Caliber SRT-4 Base MSRP: $22,435 Available Engines: 2.4 liter turbocharged DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 285 HP and 265 ft.-lbs. of torque. Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual transmission Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive EPA Fuel Economy: 23 City/29 Highway Curb Weight: 3189 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() Nissan Sentra SE-R Base MSRP: $19,760 Available Engines: 2.5 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 177 HP and 172 ft.-lbs. of torque (200/180 on Spec V). Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual (Spec V only) or CVT (base only) Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive (limited slip differential optional on Spec V) EPA Fuel Economy: 24 City/30 Highway (CVT), 21/29 (6MT) Curb Weight: 3048-3072 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() Subaru Impreza WRX (STi excluded) Base MSRP: $24,350 (4-door), $24,850 (5-door) Available Engines: 2.5 liter turbocharged DOHC 16-valve horizontally-opposed flat-4 with 224 HP and 226 ft.-lbs. of torque. Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode Available Drivetrains: All wheel drive EPA Fuel Economy: 20 City/25 Highway (4AT), 19/25 (5MT) Curb Weight: 3142-3241 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() Volkswagen R32 Base MSRP: $32,990 Available Engines: 3.2 liter DOHC 24-valve VR6 with 250 HP and 236 ft.-lbs. of torque. Available Transmissions: 6-speed dual-clutch sequential manual gearbox Available Drivetrains: All wheel drive EPA Fuel Economy: 18 City/23 Highway Curb Weight: 3547 lbs. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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![]() PwnStar ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 816 Joined: 17-March 07 From: California Member No.: 3,752 Car: 2011 Mazda3s Grand Touring 6MT ![]() |
Impreza by default.
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![]() Hipster ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 11-October 06 From: New York Member No.: 3,105 ![]() |
R32, its just so sexy. AWD = love.
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![]() Latent racecar driver ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 31-January 05 From: So-Cal Member No.: 1,455 Car: 2006 Slobalt, '65 Karmann Ghia ![]() |
Cobalt SS. Do I need to post a link to their forums for you?
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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
I also went for the Cobalt SS. It's simply the most legitimate performance car here.
I also like the Spec V (it's a good all-rounder for the price) and the R32 (sweet sweet VR6 engine note and the best looking one here) but if you want to really thrash a car, the Cobalt's the best choice by far. Based on my experience with the supercharged model, Chevy got the handling nigh perfect on the SS. |
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![]() Latent racecar driver ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 31-January 05 From: So-Cal Member No.: 1,455 Car: 2006 Slobalt, '65 Karmann Ghia ![]() |
Nor can you ignore 8.22 around the ring.
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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
well 8:22.85...close enough.
I trust that the number is legit. And damned impressive, of course. That's quicker than a Porsche 993 Carrera was (slower than a 996 3.4, though, but still damned impressive). |
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![]() IT SLIDES! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 6,345 Joined: 5-February 07 From: Maine Member No.: 3,670 Car: Volkswagen R32 Mk V ![]() |
After the Cobalt chat on IRC the other night, I can't vote for anything else.
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![]() ^_^ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,233 Joined: 3-May 05 From: Canada Member No.: 1,656 ![]() |
R32 only because it sounds like the devil.
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![]() Posting God ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 11,366 Joined: 30-January 05 From: Dubai Member No.: 1,451 ![]() |
I voted R32, it sounds like a duck on steroids.
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![]() Race Driver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,587 Joined: 2-October 07 From: Canada Member No.: 4,080 Car: 2009 Subaru Legacy ![]() |
Calibur, SE-R and HHR are hideous.
Cobalt is a bit to plain in my eyes, and FWD. I respect what it can do, but after the super charged version we used to got, I would always feel like I got less car. R32 is cool, but for $8000 less, I can have a car which is only lacking 26bhp, 10ft\lbs of torque, still has an awesome AWD layout, and is >300lbs lighter (which would make up for a bit of the power deficit). WRX for me! |
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![]() Race Driver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,455 Joined: 9-August 06 Member No.: 2,585 ![]() |
Calibur, SE-R and HHR are hideous. Cobalt is a bit to plain in my eyes, and FWD. I respect what it can do, but after the super charged version we used to got, I would always feel like I got less car. R32 is cool, but for $8000 less, I can have a car which is only lacking 26bhp, 10ft\lbs of torque, still has an awesome AWD layout, and is >300lbs lighter (which would make up for a bit of the power deficit). WRX for me! Haha, stole the words straight out of my mouth. ![]() |
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![]() The Lord of The Rings ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,823 Joined: 7-July 04 From: Montreal, Quebec Member No.: 899 Car: 2004 Audi RS6 ![]() |
If I had to actually buy one of these, it'd be the WRX. I'm not a Volkswagen fan, and Subaru's quality, reliability and very impressive AWD system give me it's vote.
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![]() **Snuggles** ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 14,251 Joined: 13-November 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 166 Car: 2006 Subaru WRX STI ![]() |
The WRX is still by far the best built all around racer amongst the lot.
Also, having the R32 in here is stupid. |
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![]() Posting God ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 11,366 Joined: 30-January 05 From: Dubai Member No.: 1,451 ![]() |
^ I was just going to say that. Shouldn't the R32 be in the same league as the STI and Evo?
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![]() Talkin' the talk since 2003 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 28,271 Joined: 27-August 03 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 27 Car: 2004 VW GTI 1.8T ![]() |
I had to pick where the R32 would go...I know it's pricy for this group, but it's softer and slower than the STi and Evo (and the other cars in that group). So while it fits into the higher group in terms of price (though it would be cheap up there), in terms of capability and intent it's more in line with these cars.
I didn't expect it to be winning the vote here, I thought people would bitch about how fat and expensive it is and pick something else. Hell, I think it's too fat and expensive and I'm a VW fan so that's why I picked the Cobalt ![]() |
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![]() Race Driver ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,587 Joined: 2-October 07 From: Canada Member No.: 4,080 Car: 2009 Subaru Legacy ![]() |
well 8:22.85...close enough. I trust that the number is legit. And damned impressive, of course. That's quicker than a Porsche 993 Carrera was (slower than a 996 3.4, though, but still damned impressive). it's most likely me being cynical, but I often wonder how "stock" these cars are when they post these head scratchingly quick times. Are they on stock tires? Was anything done to the computer? Was the boost turned up? Was it a blue printed engine? It's one of the reasons that I normally consider 'Ring times to be completely irrelevant. |
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![]() **Snuggles** ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 14,251 Joined: 13-November 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 166 Car: 2006 Subaru WRX STI ![]() |
I had to pick where the R32 would go...I know it's pricy for this group, but it's softer and slower than the STi and Evo (and the other cars in that group). So while it fits into the higher group in terms of price (though it would be cheap up there), in terms of capability and intent it's more in line with these cars. I didn't expect it to be winning the vote here, I thought people would bitch about how fat and expensive it is and pick something else. Hell, I think it's too fat and expensive and I'm a VW fan so that's why I picked the Cobalt ![]() You underestimate how the veedub fanbois ... |
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Living the dream ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 8,859 Joined: 27-August 03 Member No.: 28 ![]() |
I went with the WRX on this one. I don't know how it compares to the 2004 model that I drove but it epitomizes the Boy Racer car.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,161 Joined: 15-May 06 From: CT/PA Member No.: 2,510 Car: Subaru Legacy ![]() |
HHR SS, only because of the panel version. And it has:
QUOTE 5-speed manual with “no-lift shit”
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