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post Nov 6 2004, 09:08 AM
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After all the times I said I didn't like turbo's or superchargers biggrin.gif . I just bought a G60 with tranny from a Corrado for $2000CND. It has 90,000 original KM's on it, and the charger needs to be rebuilt - really good deal. I'd do a straight swap, and it'd stay stock till I could save more money.

This is a really sweet swap. Doing the swap would be a joke. It's really easy, I'd have a couple people helping me. It pushes about 160hp at the crank. Which is perfect, and it doesn't hinder the handeling performance. I think im going to do it during the winter. thumbs_up.gif

Sorry, no pictures of the motor. It's comming from BC.
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This is what it'd look like, but without all that jazz. It'd look a little bit more worn out.
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post Nov 6 2004, 09:21 AM
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Why would you swap for a more unreliable engine?
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post Nov 6 2004, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(White RSX @ Nov 6 2004, 09:21 AM)
Why would you swap for a more unreliable engine?

huh.gif Why?... Why not? The obvious answer is because it's faster. It's a SOHC 8v just like mine... but it has a supercharger on it. Yes, going faster has it's consiquences. It won't be that big of a drop in relibility, just more maintaince is needed.
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post Nov 6 2004, 09:32 AM
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But it's still MORE unreliable, you already own a VW.
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post Nov 6 2004, 09:35 AM
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What? I'm doing a G60 swap. Not buying a car. I am buying a motor and putting it into my GTi. The 8v is a VERY reliable motor, it also can take an ass whoopin. I am also not scared if I own a "unreliable" car - which it is not going to be. Because then I can learn more and do more.
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post Nov 6 2004, 09:54 AM
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I quit.

You're bothersome.
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post Nov 6 2004, 09:59 AM
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I don't quite understand. You are calling a motor that you know nothing about unreliable and by the way you say "MORE" it sounds like your calling the original motor unreliable also. The motor is very reliable, and the I don't see whats wrong with making my car have a lower km motor and getting over 1/2 power added on.

The G60 needs lots of care. I should always use synthetic engine oil. Change the oil and the oil-filter every 3000km. Clean K&N filter regularly, and last but most importantly, NEVER drive a G60-engined car over 3000rpm when cold because the Oil temperature must be above 90 degrees celcius, it won't be winter driven so yeah. I'm golden if I do this.

The type of people who do not like cars, manual transmissions, and if they don't like to maintain cars regularly shouldn't own a VW. To have a reliable VW, all you gotta do is maintain it.... and it's very reliable.

Personaly, throughout owning two VW's older then a decade for under two years have never had a problem. I've had two or three problems with them.. all things that happen in due time to a old car I had was a 1 dollar alternater ajustment peice that snapped on my GTi, replaced a clutch on the cabriolet, and new 20 dollar door handels.

Also, in due time when I decide to mod the G60, it is very easy to modify. All I gotta do is get a smaller pulley on the G-lader and chip and I got 190bhp. This costs about $200.

Want more proof? Seems like all the G60 owners are pretty happy. G60 Car Survey. ... and there are some really high milaged G60's.
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post Nov 6 2004, 11:35 AM
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The G60 has a history of being unreliable...that's it, RedLine; that's all WRSX is saying.

Personally, I think you're spoiling this little car with FI...
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post Nov 6 2004, 11:36 AM
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Where's the history? How come everyone that I know that has a G60 swap loves it? What other motors would I put in my car? I don't want a VR6 and I don't want a 16v. The G60 is perfect for it. The n/a 8v is too wimpy for it. Even if I wanted to build up my current motor, I couldn't get 160hp, and it'd be a lot more money.

Also, whats wrong with a stock f/i car? You have a 1.8T.... right?
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post Nov 6 2004, 11:42 AM
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I dunno where the history is, it's just a reputation. Jesus. I was just explaining WRSX's statements.
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post Nov 6 2004, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(White RSX @ Nov 6 2004, 12:21 PM)
Why would you swap for a more unreliable engine?

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When someone puts lots of money into something, you don't want to hear something bad about it. It's very natural and that's what I think is happening.
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post Nov 6 2004, 11:46 AM
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Yeah, and I am still defending my position. I've talked to many people with experience, my best friend has a G60 with 250hp. He says it's the best way to go, and he's been tuning VW's since he first got his '92 GTi in '93. My friend is the most anal guy about perfection, and he has a G60 in his car. Some people call G60's the best german engineering in a motor ever.

Yes, it's going to be more unrelaible. Not much more. WRSX has to realise there are pro's and con's to modding a car. A motor that has been tuned to pump out more hp will put more stress on things. Relibility isn't everything for a driver, especialy me. You just gotta know, or have friends that can help you when things go wrong, and relability issues aren't that big of a deal, actualy, they're usualy fun.

The only way it won't be reliable is that if im lazy and I don't maintain it.


QUOTE(AgaBooga @ Nov 6 2004, 11:45 AM)
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When someone puts lots of money into something, you don't want to hear something bad about it. It's very natural and that's what I think is happening.

You can say anything bad about something, as long as you know that it's true. What I think what happens, is when someone or something is fausly accused, they usualy defend it.
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post Nov 6 2004, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(RedLine @ Nov 6 2004, 02:46 PM)
Yeah, and I am still defending my position. I've talked to many people with experience, my best friend has a G60 with 250hp. He says it's the best way to go, and he's been tuning VW's since he first got his '92 GTi in '93. My friend is the most anal guy about perfection, and he has a G60 in his car.  Some people call G60's the best german engineering in a motor ever.

Yes, it's going to be more unrelaible. Not much more. WRSX has to realise there are pro's and con's to modding a car. A motor that has been tuned to pump out more hp will put more stress on things. Relibility isn't everything for a driver, especialy me. You just gotta know, or have friends that can help you when things go wrong, and relability issues aren't that big of a deal, actualy, they're usualy fun.

The only way it won't be reliable is that if im lazy and I don't maintain it.

You pretty much said that it won't be as reliable, WRSX said that in the first reply to this thread

If you defend past this, in my mind you will be labeled as another fanboy, if you don't reply then you will just remain neutral. Oh, and I don't care if you know a lot, have friends that know a lot about the car, because you can still be a fanboy

The one reply that won't label you as a fanboy would be agreeing with us that it isn't as reliable
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post Nov 6 2004, 12:57 PM
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You guys realise that's only 56K miles right?

If he takes care of it and it's been taken car of it shouldn't be a problem at all. It's not a daily driver, not like he'll put HUGE miles on it.

Hope it all work, it sounds like it'll be a nice package in the end.
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post Nov 6 2004, 12:58 PM
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Here's what I said. It would make a reliable motor a little less reliable(10% less reliable), it's common sence that a motor with a supercharger aposed to one without one will go through more stress. It has more components and thus more things can break. Nothing big. He claimed it would make it unrelaible, it's not like that. It would make it less reliable, which it is reliable. It won't even be problem if it's maintained well.

I'm not a fan boy. I like two motors that vw have put out ever, and only two generations of the Jetta/Golf. The 1.8T and the 8v are the only two motors I like. I'm also not a fan boy because I could never just buy a vw and leave it stock. Yuck.


QUOTE(Forrest @ Nov 6 2004, 12:57 PM)
You guys realise that's only 56K miles right?

If he takes care of it and it's been taken car of it shouldn't be a problem at all.   It's not a daily driver, not like he'll put HUGE miles on it.

Hope it all work, it sounds like it'll be a nice package in the end.

Thanks, a little be of appreciation of performance.

I've put 3,000 KM's on my car throughout the summer. The Supercharger needs to be rebuilt every 50,000 MILES as a precaution. My friend knows the owner of the Corrado. And I'm getting a very good deal. He checked it out and it's in very good condition other then the original supercharger got burnt out and he got a motor swap.
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post Nov 7 2004, 07:13 PM
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Holy shit, guys need to stop bitching and let the kid do the engine swap, who cares if the engine he's swapping for is less reliable, he obviously doesn't give a shit so you shouldn't either.
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post Nov 7 2004, 07:14 PM
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All I know is I've seen 3 G60 Corrados, and every weekend they're working on their cars.
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post Nov 7 2004, 07:17 PM
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Maybe because they like'em and wanna make sure it's running in perfect shape.
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post Nov 7 2004, 07:19 PM
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No its because things are borked on them dentist. Personally I love the G-Lader design but its a VERY tempermental motor.

If I had a VW though I'd do a turbo 16V.
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post Nov 7 2004, 07:22 PM
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you can say whatever you want, but unreliability is NOT kinda fun if it's your ONLY car. unless walking your broke ass to work is fun?
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