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Avalon
Obviously I think it should be beyond frozen, 0 degrees on the Kelvin scale I believe, where all molecules stop moving because they are so cold. But then that doesn't really matter does it? What matters is what you think. SO VOTE AWAY!

I will make my case for it though: The TR6 is a driver's car, a pure roadster. No more, no less. If you get hung up on air condition and all the little gizmos and gadgets, then this isn't the car for you. But if you're a driver, and want a car just for the thrill of driving and taking bends, then this is a fantastic machine. The TR6 is very torquey in stock form, and has a decent amount of power. Certainly more than most ricebox Civics and other hatchbacks. Also, the engine is cheaply moddable. I priced different stage kits you can get (new cam, crank, pistons, rods, etc. No forced induction), and a stage 2 kit will give 183hp, which is a hell of a lot for a 2300lb car, and costs about $4400. A full on race engine will put out nearly 275 hp. With a few simple mods, te straight six in the TR6 will turn from a torquey block of iron into a serious beast: a Porsche eater. And that's not even counting the looks. I mean, it just doesn't get any better than that.

Here's my car as an example:

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clarkma5
It's merely cool...the British may have invented the roadster but I don't think they ever really got it right.
dukenukem
It most definately is cool . thumbs_up.gif
Avalon
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Aug 28 2004, 11:42 AM)
It's merely cool...the British may have invented the roadster but I don't think they ever really got it right.

What's not right about it?
clarkma5
British roadsters are just...short on engineering, long on quirkyness. They're more charming than what the germans or japanese have made, but they aren't as good.

And I don't care too much about "charming", myself. I think of "charming" and I think of a house with hearts in the shutters.
NorthPoint
Unless you resize the images it will be seriously uncool! dry.gif
Avalon
That's half the fun of it to me. German cars may be made better, but they are much more complicated. Anything on this car I can take off, take apart, fix, and then put back together myself. They have much more character than a German car too. With an old BMW or Merc or Porsche, it's unlikely that anyone will go "Oooo, look at that!" just because they don't stand out, expecially new German cars. TRs have character, which is something that just about every other brand of automobile lacks.
Avalon
QUOTE(NorthPoint @ Aug 28 2004, 11:48 AM)
Unless you resize the images it will be seriously uncool! dry.gif

Done.
White RSX
Frozen
NorthPoint
QUOTE(Avalon @ Aug 28 2004, 02:54 PM)
Done.

700 pixels wide would be even better... wink.gif

But it gets a cool from me. An inexpensive roadster that offers a lot of fun and unique British character.
Avalon
QUOTE(NorthPoint @ Aug 28 2004, 11:57 AM)
700 pixels wide would be even better... wink.gif

You must have a small resolution. Sorry I don't feel like resizing them again. Thanks for the vote though.
NorthPoint
QUOTE(Avalon @ Aug 28 2004, 03:07 PM)
QUOTE(NorthPoint @ Aug 28 2004, 11:57 AM)
700 pixels wide would be even better...  wink.gif

You must have a small resolution. Sorry I don't feel like resizing them again. Thanks for the vote though.

I have 1024x768, it ain't no 1600x1200 but hardly small. Oh well...

Personally I am looking forward to seeing dozens of TR6s in a couple of weeks at our local British Car Day.
Avalon
QUOTE(NorthPoint @ Aug 28 2004, 12:10 PM)
Personally I am looking forward to seeing dozens of TR6s in a couple of weeks at our local British Car Day.

Ours is coming up as well. Only this year, I'll be entering in it! Oh boy!
Dylan
Have you posted pics of your car yet?
White RSX
Those are pics of his car, Dylan.
Dylan
Tee hee. Tee hee. Prease don't kirr me sir WRSX.
Avalon
WHO DARE VOTE UNCOOL?! I SHALL CUT THEIR THROAT!




No, just kidding. I don't know who voted uncool. I respect your opinion, but I don't really know why you'd vote uncool (though I'd be interested in hearing). And I'm not just saying that because it's my car. I loved TRs before I ever had one, and since I first went to our British Car show when I was like 9, and it's been the car I've wanted since then.
fallon
deffinitely Cool, its a fun little roadster of which you don't see too often
huge colin
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cRiSiS
its actually Kelvins (K)

i like it. cool car
Viper007Bond
I vote Frozen, although I like the softer lines on the TR5/250 and TR4 compared to block rear end on the 6.



And yeah, they are quick little cars. Even though mine (pictured above) has 1/2 the HP of the fuel injected TR5, it still gets going. I wanna stick triple Webbers on mine though as I'd imagine it already has the same rear end of a 5 and could handle it. (A TR250 is a 5, but with carbs instead of injection as it didn't mean US emissions.)
Avalon
You have a TR250? Sweet! I didn't know that.

Yeah, the fuel injected TR5s and TR6s in GB kicked serious ass. I mean mine has fairly good pickup, but those FI models with 150hp would humble many American muscle cars even in a straight line, and even more in the corners. I saw one this summer at VIR in the historic races and it won it's class by an easy 10 seconds. There is also a British Car restoration shop near me (besides the one I work at) which has a fuel injected TR6 AND TR5. I've seen both of them. I can count on one hand the number of injection TR6s and injection TR250s there are in the US that are currently running.
DakianDelomast
laugh.gif FI broke down more than a carbed car did.
Viper007Bond
Well, it's technically my dad's and he's had it since the early 70's, but I've claimed it as mine and will be stealing it from him. wink.gif
Avalon
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laugh.gif FI broke down more than a carbed car did.


The first FI (or as the Brits call it, PI for petrol injection) did indeed break down a lot because of the high compression, which gave it 150hp. They later detuned the engine to 125hp (I'm not sure about the compression ratios) which made it much more reliable. My car has the twin Zenith-Stromberg carbs that came on it. They probably will never totally keep it from running, but they are POS. You can tune them on a warm day and have the car running beautifully, and then the first muggy, rainy day you have the car will run like shit. I'm hoping to be able to put twin (or maybe even triple!) Weber downdrafts on it this winter. Those, combined with an exhaust, header, and engine overhaul will give it at least 25 extra bhp, which is good stuff <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.dieselstation.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
Viper007Bond
I have dual oil float (or they're called something like that) carbs. I'm seriosuly going to push for us to get some triple Webbers. devil.gif

We're also getting some nice Panorama's for it (mags), but it'll cost $2000 for a set. dry.gif Something like this:



Here's a TR4 with those wheels which will give you a very good idea of how it looks.

nismo
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White RSX
BBcode doesnt work when it's moved into Cool, Frozen, MJU, and Uncool

Also, its Panasport.

Also also, TR-4's didn't come with surrey tops, only 250's and 5's so did you guys get a TR-250 surrey?
Viper007Bond
QUOTE(White RSX @ Sep 5 2004, 07:34 AM)
Also, its Panasport.

Also also, TR-4's didn't come with surrey tops, only 250's and 5's so did you guys get a TR-250 surrey?

A) Was just coming to fix my post right now actually. I was quite tired when I posted previously

cool.gif As I said, that's a TR4 and they look the same except for that thing.
White RSX
QUOTE(Viper007Bond @ Sep 5 2004, 09:42 AM)
B ) As I said, that's a TR4 and they look the same except for that thing.

I know, we have both, I was asking about your surrey, where did you manage to snag one?
Viper007Bond
The hard top window thing? Don't have one on our's, (they do sell them though - a 2 piece hardtop). I was just using the picture to show what the car would look like with those rims minus the... "surrey".

On a side note, I went to the local British Field Meet and saw about a dozen TR6's and a ton of other great stuff including a TR5! Okay, so it didn't start out life as a TR5 (turns out none were imported to North America legally - a few made it here accidentally though). This was a TR250 with a TR5 engine from New Zeland that was put into the car.

I'll post pictures sometime.
Avalon
The Surrey top is basically a hard top with a canvas middle portion, very much like T -tops, without the middle thing. They are quite valuable in good condition, them and hard tops. We recently got a TR6 at the shop that we parted out, that hard a hard top on it. We combined 2 hard tops, repainted it, and will get about $1000 for it. Joe (my boss, owns the shop) paid $100 for the whole car! We also got a good cylinder head, exhaust headers, twin Strombers, and another $500 worth of dash instruments out of it. I'd say we got our money out of it. I got a sad chuckle (is that possible?) out of the license plate stickers on it: Feb 83.
Avalon
QUOTE(Viper007Bond @ Sep 4 2004, 10:49 PM)
I have dual oil float (or they're called something like that) carbs. I'm seriosuly going to push for us to get some triple Webbers. devil.gif

Yeah, more than likely it's got the stock twin zenith-strombergs on it now which are POS. Webers= thumbs_up.gif
Viper007Bond
Ah, "strombergs", that's right. I'm horrid with names if you hadn't noticed from this thread. rolleyes.gif

And yes, dual Strombergs are on the car. smile.gif
Viper007Bond
[Not bothering to edit due to f'ed up BBO.]

Oh, and I'll post pictures of the TR5's engine soon. smile.gif
LoudPipe
QUOTE(Viper007Bond @ Sep 5 2004, 09:49 AM)
I have dual oil float (or they're called something like that) carbs.

Sweet car Bond!

Strombergs are oil float carburettors (just like for instance SU's.) They are cunning little devices, but require a lot of maintainance. They do give good airflow. But I'd opt for twin chokes as well, if you gain nothing more from them, at least you get super cool induction road cool.gif
Avalon
QUOTE(Viper007Bond @ Sep 7 2004, 06:29 PM)
[Not bothering to edit due to f'ed up BBO.]

Oh, and I'll post pictures of the TR5's engine soon. smile.gif

TR5s are fast as shiznit and rare as hell, as are fuel injected TR6s, because they were not imported from Britain. Both have 150hp.

*Note: The TR5 is NOT the TR250, though they may look alike, and a US-spec TR6 is NOT the same as the UK-spec TR6, though they may look alike.
speedyK
QUOTE(Avalon @ Sep 13 2004, 11:31 PM) *
TR5s are fast as shiznit and rare as hell, as are fuel injected TR6s, because they were not imported from Britain. Both have 150hp.

*Note: The TR5 is NOT the TR250, though they may look alike, and a US-spec TR6 is NOT the same as the UK-spec TR6, though they may look alike.


I would agree. The TR5 was fast in its day with a 0-60 of just over 8 seconds...

Thing is though that even the TR4A IRS with the 4 cylinder engine had enough power to rip the axle out of its laughably weak mounts and the IRS suspension design was quirky at the limit. I know 'cos wrecked mine.

A good friend loved my TR and insisted I go with him to buy a 150bhp TR6. He wouldn't listen to my warnings about the treacherous nature. He eventually lost it at the limit too. It ended banana-shaped. Another good friend was also impressed by my TR4A. He got one himself only to find the front chassis leg was cracked another common fault due to poor design. He then got a TR5 for a very short time. He decided for himself that the chassis simply wasn't up to the power.

TRs were simply not as well engineered as the rival MGs. My TR4A was constantly trying to return to its constituent parts and was designed so that this was almost inevitable. When I replaced my TR with an MGC, the difference in the attention to detail in the way bits were attached to one another in a way that actually worked impressed me many times.

Oh, BTW, mine had a Surrey top. This was first shown, in Europe at least, on the 1961 TR4: the first "Targa" top years before Porsche had one, though you could only take the canvas bit with you in the boot. The steel top was too bulky to store in the car. I actually saw a TR6 that had been retro-fitted with a Surrey Top (never available for the TR6) at a Swiss British Car Meeting a couple of years ago, so had to take a snap of it:



The TRs are certainly special cars with a very great amount of character. The "modernised" TR6 was less individual, but still interesting. For me though, there are too many negative aspects about the car to make it truly great. I wouldn't want one but I can just about concur with the consensus and let it scrape into:

"Cool"
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