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DonJuanMair
So as most of you know i dont shoot cars too much anymore. But a good friend of mine just got a black car he wants me to shoot. So i want to wow him and light paint that bad boy. Thing is i dont really know what light i need for it. I know everyone is hush hush about it. But i just want to shoot one car. Can anyone help and tell me what type of continuous light i need
Mitch Hemming
Everyones hush hush about light painting? :S

anyways.. I'm pretty ghetto.. so I just picked up a 30cm fluro tube from my local hardware store, cut the wires and attached little pins/plugs. Then purchased a motorbike battery (pretty small one), and I just plug the light into the battery terminals and wolah!

It lasts about 10 hours with continuous use.

but... it is a little weak. In challenging lighting conditions it isn't bright enough. So i'm thinking of getting a rechargeable LED light strip/torch panel thing. I think thats what most guys use

Hope this helps!

also, post up pics after you've shot the car smile.gif
DonJuanMair
thanks Mitch! really appreciate it. I will go to my hardware store tomorrow and have a look. Im thinking of doing the whole shoot at night time in a garage somewhere anyway. nothing too crazy. Maybe ill look for something a little stronger also
Blue Devil
just don't try to fight a lot of different type of light sources... and try to go toward a darker area... or not directly lit by anything else... you will find that later on in post processing it will be a bitch...
Konrad Janicki
some barn doors (or how its called) on your light could help, for me it improved my editing a lot smile.gif
link
Hey dude,

this is 100% unretouched, fresh out of the camera:




I use a 4 foot 4 bulb KINO (but you'll get the same result with a long flouro tube.)

I shoot in complete darkness or as close to it as i can and use the kino to light the environment too. 30 second exposure and experiment with my aperture until im happy. I use 30 seconds because it allows me to light the bg and the car in one shot so i spend less time compositing later.

This was lightpainted in the street under the brooklyn bridge.... had to fight all the streetlights etc took a minute to get it right and to get the WB right later, i wouldnt recommend trying it on your first attempt. As dark as possible will make it easier on you.


This is a behind the scenes video of me lightpainting a ferrari 458:


play with the body lines until you get a good highlight. The one on the shot of the 300c from my other thread took forever to get we had to play with the height of the light for a while.



Hope this helped. PM me if you've got any questions.
MaTBoY
I made an LED light box with 12 super bright, white LED'S. Basically, just a glorified torch. If i want to do details and stuff I use it direct, If I'm trying to get that watery look i throw it in a soft box. You could do the same with an automotive work light or a really bright torch with a wide angle.

Set your exposure to 30' or to bulb, do a test shot to see what F-stop you need for the environment your in, then have some fun. Just remember LONG SMOOTH deliberate movements will give you a clean crisp look. Side side movements usually seem to come out better than up-down too.

For a black car try getting as bright a source as possible and put in a massive octobox. guarantee it will come out sexy wink.gif

comparison of light on same model car:

bare


softy
ImAwesome
On my phone...posting to remind myself to add to this later
MaTBoY
you got me all inspired to try a different light source. this was the result.

Walked around the car with an AB800 in a softbox. (That bright spot on the rear quarter must have been an accidental click in photoshop.... meh, it's a test shot of a dirty car at an average location, so i can live with it tongue.gif )

DonJuanMair
i feel like a lot of these look the same as if you were just to light it with normal strobes

what Link did in his latest shoot is what im looking for, i think im only going to be able to get this with tubes
GFWilliams
This the kind of thing you're after?
MaTBoY
wow!

Can i ask what techniques and equipment you used?

That shot is F'ing amazing!!!
DonJuanMair
yeah thats real nice George
link
the look you want is going to be bare tubes up high. The height will depend on the body lines of the car.... going to take a few tries to see what height produces the stripe on the body line.
Blue Devil
There is a lot of different styles you can get with light painting... there is also the softter side... like this:



MaTBoY
Bookmarked your site George. So much high quality work on there.

those camaro shots are rad too!
link
GFWilliams
QUOTE(MaTBoY @ Aug 26 2011, 03:31 AM) *
Bookmarked your site George. So much high quality work on there.

those camaro shots are rad too!


Thanks, I'll give some info on the lighting when i get home tonight smile.gif It's actually very simple...
Leafy
Subscribed. Need help with technique as well. This is where I am at so far.

DonJuanMair
Blue Devil that second one is really nice
daniele fontanin
great post Anthony!
I'm in the same situation...Here in Italy I can't easly find equipment...I hope in a help also by George! The pic of the ultima is amazing!
john jovic
I had a Light Painting 'how to' on DS about a couple of years ago but the links to that are no longer valid. The new/updated Light Painting guide are below, as well as Automotive Lighting, in general.

Light Painting http://photocornucopia.com/1035.html
Car Lighting (which runs over several pages and includes the above) http://photocornucopia.com/1028.html

JJ
bkl
^ thank you very much for that! i scrolled quickly through it but have bookmarked it to read further into it sometime soon
daniele fontanin
George!
We are all waiting for your post man!
:-)
GFWilliams
QUOTE(daniele fontanin @ Sep 11 2011, 05:43 AM) *
George!
We are all waiting for your post man!
:-)


Shit, sorry!

Just popping out to play, but will do it when I get home smile.gif

ETA: there's a very very basic explanation on my blog here about a few of the studio shots smile.gif
http://gfwilliams.net/Blog/Entry/11.html
GFWilliams
Been a bit busy. Will hopefully do tomorrow.
MaTBoY
All this talk got me inspired to get off my arse and shoot something. I had limited time with the car and it wasn't moving from it's garage.

CasseTrop
With my Cell Phone Flash...

Seethegrim
QUOTE(CasseTrop @ Sep 13 2011, 06:37 AM) *
With my Cell Phone Flash...


hahahahaha, man you get an award for most innovative. Until someone decides to strap a glow-stick to their Mr John downstairs & dance naked around car to lightpaint.
Blue Devil
QUOTE(Seethegrim @ Sep 13 2011, 05:52 AM) *
hahahahaha, man you get an award for most innovative. Until someone decides to strap a glow-stick to their Mr John downstairs & dance naked around car to lightpaint.

Note to self: Try this!

When cop has gun to my head asking me what the fuck i am doing.. just say: "It's art man...."
daniele fontanin
QUOTE(CasseTrop @ Sep 13 2011, 06:37 AM) *
With my Cell Phone Flash...


doh! I need to change my shitting panasonic gd90!
MaTBoY
Tried something a bit different with how i light the car. Shots are just of my gf's car on the driveway, but they're dark enough that it doesn't matter to much. I'll be shooting a tracked up Evo 9 over the weekend. I'll try to apply the same technique on that and post up.




daniele fontanin
George, the post on the blog is cool man!
Thanks for shearing!

Can you gus have some indications not about what kind of light but how to use it?
I mean: do you lighpaint from up to down? directly to the car? During lightpaintind are you walking in front of the camera or do you use a pole to move the light?
And so on...can you give me some tips?
Thank you!
daniele fontanin
and another question

circular polarizer yes or not?
Mitch Hemming
QUOTE(daniele fontanin @ Sep 23 2011, 04:34 AM) *
and another question

circular polarizer yes or not?



+1

does anyone actually use a CP when lightpainting? im yet to try it...
Seethegrim
Yes. Just like normal shooting, one uses a CP to cut out unwanted reflections, the same applies for lightpainting.
daniele fontanin
cool!
thank you Seagram!
Mitch Hemming
QUOTE(Seethegrim @ Sep 25 2011, 11:07 PM) *
Yes. Just like normal shooting, one uses a CP to cut out unwanted reflections, the same applies for lightpainting.


yeah well duhh..

but what I wanna know is if the CP area actually affects the light painting 'strip' ?

ill just try it and find out for myself i think
GFWilliams
You can work the CP to your advantage if there are background reflections you want to cut out. It can affect the line, but I found it doesn't tend to. Just give it a go smile.gif
Andrew
If you need to use a CPL when lightpainting, your light source isn't bright enough. The irony then is that the filter eats even more light.

You should be able to lightpaint without fretting over reflections from ambient light, and 9/10 your ambient light will be coming from all angles so the filter will not be performing at its best. Add in the increased chance of flare, and how much of a bitch it can be to set up in the dark and my CPL stays in the bag throughout the nighttime.

Here's my take on mixing cars and LP
Luuk
.GIF is the future!



Seethegrim
QUOTE(Mitch Hemming @ Sep 26 2011, 12:06 PM) *
yeah well duhh..

but what I wanna know is if the CP area actually affects the light painting 'strip' ?

ill just try it and find out for myself i think


There is a fine point on my CP where the light is slightly dulled & where the reflections are taken away. If I can get it right in the middle I can get a non-reflective surface and the light strip. Re-reading my previous statement did sound kind of dumb.
GFWilliams
Is lightpainting overdone now?
I could have lightpainted this yesterday, but decided to light with strobes...

Andrew
IMO it's really just coming into its own although it'll never replace natural light/ strobes/ studio. I envisage lighting specialists and photographers getting more canny with their techniques, either to conceal the LP or to mix lighting styles.

It'll remain pretty niche because it's too damn time consuming and you can only do it at night. Find a way around those obstacles and it'll take off.

For your shot, with the light trails in the bg, neat lightpainted highlights on the car would've worked well but considering the circumstances you/ the strobes have done a fair job. I love catching that last hint of twilight.
v2lab






i usually do em' in sections;
- > side of the car to the front
- > front of the car & lower bumper
- > top of the car and hood
- > full over the top of the car
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and as an added > i like to do reflections in and through the windows - because well i sort of like that effect (but only sometimes)
Mitch Hemming
ah im so tired of seeing lightpainting done in boring as shit locations. no offence


just seems like no one puts any thought into locations nearly as much as they do lighting the car sad.gif
CasseTrop


Cell phone flash lightpainting again hehe.
daniele fontanin
mmmmmm
I bought a neon some days ago...yesterday I was in my garage for a test........NO GOOD!
I was always in front of the camera or over the car with the light...can you show me the position where you lightpaint guys?
GFWilliams
Well I discovered last night that my fluero tube just isn't powerful enough sad.gif
Mitch Hemming
QUOTE(GFWilliams @ Oct 5 2011, 04:08 PM) *
Well I discovered last night that my fluero tube just isn't powerful enough sad.gif



haha same

get an LED handheld one. you can get ones which are rechargeable biggrin.gif
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