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Mr.D


Might be interesting to someone...
Seethegrim
Wow. I want to build sets like that.

Nice one!
mcdronkz
Amazing. The way this guy makes his shots, is truly inspiring. Fantastic ideas.
Blue Devil
now that's a rig .....

anyway.. very cool how he sets up those shots. smile.gif
Dragos
very cool man. thanks for posting it here!!!
Dejan Sokolovski
wow nice!!
maccan
dude, i love that windsurfin pic @ the end.s

cool thing too see, even if i dont really like how the rigshot came out,
i think it can be done better regarding to the phase one, carbon rig, big team, and a very high budget.


/maccan
Nate047
must be nice to have:

crew
budget
re-touchers
????
profit
Seethegrim
QUOTE(Nate047 @ Apr 21 2010, 12:09 AM) *
must be nice to have:

crew
budget
re-touchers
????
profit


+1 for profit. haha
Nate047
yea that's the part I wish I had the most thumbs_up.gif whistle.gif
Blue Devil
QUOTE(Nate047 @ Apr 20 2010, 06:09 PM) *
must be nice to have:

crew
budget
re-touchers
BIG CLIENTS
profit


fix it for ya...

the question is...

how to get those BIG CLIENTS.

I have a big architectural client that basically spent roughly $15k on photography last year but we finished shooting all his buidlings.... so now I need another big client... damn it...
Nate047
artist representation firm thumbs_up.gif
Seethegrim
QUOTE(Nate047 @ Apr 24 2010, 01:27 AM) *
artist representation firm thumbs_up.gif


I hope that helps. After 3 years, I've finally been signed up with one of the 5 (in total) photographer agencies in my country. Only been about a month so far, but I really do hope that it will finally bring in some decent automotive jobs for once instead of crappy pay editorial.
MikeC
Hi all

I'm the photographer on the Volvo shoot.

Nice to see some positive reaction, was a VERY tricky shoot, limited time and budget. I did all the retouching, although the PR company used the wrong image for the rig shot, finished version was better. Excluding fitting rig, we only had 20 minutes to get that image . . .

Be happy to answer any questions you may have, I'd also be interested to know how much you think the whole shoot cost. We also did a shot of two girls 'sailing' their dingy in the hanger and portraits of the team members.

Cheers,

Mike Cooper
Nate047
Hi Mike, glad to see you chime in. I guess a few questions I have right away are about the cost and ease of operation regarding the Move N Shoot.

Do you need a special grip operator or can it be mounted and operated by any photographer/assistant? How does it actually mount onto the car?? What is the day rate to rent one in your area? I've never seen one in person, I know lots of us muse as to how it "might" work but if you'd be willing to share some first-hand insight that would be awesome...

The whole set looks very nice! thumbs_up.gif thumbs_up.gif
Dragos
Mike welcome to the forum.
My estimation for the hole thing around 6000$ smile.gif Hope to see more things from you here.
MikeC
Hiya


The rig I hired, I'm not really a specialist car photographer so the amount I use them doesn't justify buying outright. Costs about $1000/day including a bloke to transport & rig boom, actual rig is $600, but operator costs always bump it up. Two beams are bolted underneath the car - this is the most time consuming bit - then another beam sits along side the car, tilt/swivel joint fixes to this and finally extension beam leads to camera position. This final part is extenable up to about 11 metres. All made from carbon, very light.

I guess with practise you could do all this yourself, but its time consuming and you need quite a bit of knowledge of how car chasis are made to find right points to fix to.
Once set up it's very easy to use, just push car and away you go . . Rig moves about quite alarmingly, first time I used one, it was very windy and I thought this can't be sharp, but it was. Did a 45 second exposure image in a car park, no problem. Biggest problem is then retouching out rig, image on video isn't final version so doen't look that great. We were also very tight on time so didn't have chance to find really cool location. There are versions of the rig that have glass tilt/swivel joint that are so high quality there's hardly any retouching required, but they are so heavy, you have to put blocks in suspension.

My overall view of them is that they're very easy to work with, it's really just another tool, the key to a great image is still lighting, composistion and location which for this image we kind of got, it was OK not brilliant, but for a 20 minute shoot acceptable, I'll try and post final version.


Cheers
MikeC
Blimey, have you spoken to the client?!

Very good guess, was a little more than that but not much.

That includes, two assistants, make up artist, two vans to transport all kit and rigging and accommodation for four people. $1000 for camera boom & operator alone.

By the time I'd finished all retouching not huge amounts of profit, but worth it for some nice pictures in the book.

Cheers
Dragos
I love the concept of how you associate water sports with volvo and how you put that in practice. Congratulations.
daniele fontanin
Hi mike!
welcome in ds!

This set is amazing. I love the shots with the wather...they are masterpieces, I mean: the lights, the tones, desaturation and all in the images is fantastic...I can say that the pics are not only pics...great!!!
Nate047
QUOTE(MikeC @ Apr 27 2010, 11:41 PM) *
Hiya


The rig I hired, I'm not really a specialist car photographer so the amount I use them doesn't justify buying outright. Costs about $1000/day including a bloke to transport & rig boom, actual rig is $600, but operator costs always bump it up. Two beams are bolted underneath the car - this is the most time consuming bit - then another beam sits along side the car, tilt/swivel joint fixes to this and finally extension beam leads to camera position. This final part is extenable up to about 11 metres. All made from carbon, very light.

I guess with practise you could do all this yourself, but its time consuming and you need quite a bit of knowledge of how car chasis are made to find right points to fix to.
Once set up it's very easy to use, just push car and away you go . . Rig moves about quite alarmingly, first time I used one, it was very windy and I thought this can't be sharp, but it was. Did a 45 second exposure image in a car park, no problem. Biggest problem is then retouching out rig, image on video isn't final version so doen't look that great. We were also very tight on time so didn't have chance to find really cool location. There are versions of the rig that have glass tilt/swivel joint that are so high quality there's hardly any retouching required, but they are so heavy, you have to put blocks in suspension.

My overall view of them is that they're very easy to work with, it's really just another tool, the key to a great image is still lighting, composistion and location which for this image we kind of got, it was OK not brilliant, but for a 20 minute shoot acceptable, I'll try and post final version.


Cheers


Thanks so much for the reply! That information is very helpful. Lots of us here on DS use much lighter duty rigs, usually consisting of various types of boom arms mounted to the roof/bonnet/rear glass of the car using Manfrotto suction cups and super clamps. These setups work well in their own right, and under controlled circumstances... However, the Move N Shoot is kind of a Holy Grail/pipe dream (for me at least) because of the distances you can achieve between the car and the camera, as well as the ability to actually drive the car somewhat at speed.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it! thumbs_up.gif thumbs_up.gif
Seethegrim
Oh wow, how awesome is it to have another legend seasoned photographer contributing to how the big world works!

Great to have you here Mike!
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