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moe
Kia Soul
Base MSRP:
$13,300
Available Engines: 1.6 liter inline-4 with 122 HP and 115 ft.-lbs of torque, 2.0 liter inline-4 with 142 HP and 137 ft.-lbs of torque
Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual, 4-speed automatic (N/A on 1.6)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 26 City/31 Highway (1.6), 24/30 (2.0)
Curb Weight: 2560-2820 lbs.







Volkswagen Golf
Base MSRP:
$17,620
Available Engines: 2.4 liter inline-5 with 170 HP and 177 ft.-lbs of torque, 2.0 liter turbo diesel inline-4 with 140 HP and 235 ft.-lbs of torque
Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual (2.4), 6-speed manual (TDI), 6-speed automatic (2.4), DSG (TDi)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 23 City/30 Highway (2.4 5MT), 23/30 (2.4 6AT), 30/41 (TDI 6MT), 30/42 (TDI DSG)
Curb Weight: 2969-3041 lbs.







Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan (excluding Hybrid models)
Base MSRP:
$19,695
Available Engines: 2.5 liter inline-4 with 175 HP and 172 ft.-lbs of torque, 3.0 liter V6 with 240 HP and 223 ft.-lbs of torque, 3.5 liter V6 with 263 HP and 249 ft.-lbs of torque (N/A on Mercury Milan)
Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual (2.5 only), 6-speed automatic
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive, all wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 22 City/31 Highway (Base I-4 manual), 23/34 (Base I-4 auto), 22/29 (other I-4 models manual), 22/31 (other I-4 models auto), 18/27 (3.0 FWD), 18/25 (3.0 AWD), 18/27 (3.5 FWD), 17/24 (3.5 AWD)
Curb Weight: 3308-3699 lbs.







Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan Hybrid
Base MSRP:
$27,950
Available Engines: 2.5 liter Atkinson-cycle I-4 with 191 HP (net) and 136 ft.-lbs of torque
Available Transmissions: eCVT
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 41 City/36 Highway
Curb Weight: 3729 lbs.







Cadillac CTS Sports Wagon
Base MSRP:
$38.265
Available Engines: 3.0 liter V6 with 270 HP with 223 ft.-lbs of torque, 3.6 liter V6 with 304 HP and 273 ft.-lbs of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive, all wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 18 City/27 Highway (3.0 RWD), 18/26 (all other models)
Curb Weight: 4212 lbs.







Audi S4
Base MSRP:
$45,900
Available Engines: 3.0 liter supercharged V6 with 333 HP with 325 ft.-lbs of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual, 7-speed automatic
Available Drivetrains: All wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 18 City/28 Highwayn (S-tronic), 18/27 (manual)
Curb Weight: 3847-3824 lbs.







Ford Taurus
Base MSRP:
$25,170
Available Engines: 3.5 liter V6 with 263 HP and 249 ft.-lbs of torque, 3.5 liter turbocharged V6 with 365 HP and 350 ft.-lbs of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed auto
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive, all wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 18 City/28 Highway (FWD), 17/25 (AWD & SHO)
Curb Weight: 4015-4368 lbs.







Jaguar XJ
Base MSRP:
$72,500
Available Engines: 5.0 liter V8 with 385 HP with 380 ft.-lbs of torque, 5.0 liter Supercharged V8 with 470 HP with 424 ft.-lbs of torque, 5.0 liter Supercharged V8 with 510 HP and 461 ft.-lbs of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 16 City/23 Highway (XJ), 15/22 (XJL), 15/21 (XJ/XJL Supercharged/Supersport)
Curb Weight: 4045-4323 lbs.





Bjorn
Fusion. The rest are pretty good cars to, but lack the optimism of the Fusion. Except maybe the Kia. Love the Soul, but love the Fusion more.
moe
As much as I want to love the Fusion, I'm still bitter about it taking the win away from the Kizashi. Also as slick as the exterior is I find that interior uninspiring and dated. I think the Taurus shows what Ford can do a lot better.

I didn't vote for either though. I went with the XJ. After years of having an XJ that essentially carried a styling theme from decades ago, this one's bang up-to-date. It's gorgeous too, particularly inside. That interior is absolutely without equal in my opinion. It's dynamically on the ball with a full-range of talents from being a comfy land yacht, to an enjoyable sports sedan. It might actually be the finest car on sale today.
infinity
Golf.

Economical, practical, affordable, attractive, AND fun.
fiber optic
The CTS wagon really needed V8 power to get my vote here.
moe
^ Shouldn't you be voting for the Taurus anyway tongue.gif
fiber optic
QUOTE(moe @ Mar 27 2010, 02:10 PM) *
^ Shouldn't you be voting for the Taurus anyway tongue.gif


Of course, but had the CTS been properly equipped with V8 power it may have been a tougher decision.
Halflifehavock13
QUOTE(fiber optic @ Mar 27 2010, 06:09 PM) *
Of course, but had the CTS been properly equipped with V8 power it may have been a tougher decision.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-cts-v-wagon.html
moe
QUOTE(Halflifehavock13 @ Mar 29 2010, 11:48 PM) *


http://forums.dieselstation.com/index.php?showforum=2
Razor
Can you change my vote from the Taurus to the XJ? I really don't want to see the S4 win when Jag deserves it a lot more.
duality
S4 bitte.
moe
QUOTE(Razor @ Mar 30 2010, 12:08 AM) *
Can you change my vote from the Taurus to the XJ? I really don't want to see the S4 win when Jag deserves it a lot more.


Done.
caster
If it was CTS-V Wagon I think I might of voted for that, but S4 by default, hell I was just browsing the B8 S4 section of Audizine 5 minutes ago..
Dr. Strangelove
How is the S4 non sports again?
moe
^ Replace the S4 with the 335i sedan in this vote, would you have put that in the sports overall? I wouldn't have. It could go either way really, and for similar reasons I wasn't sure whether to put the S5 convertible in the sports or non-sports section.
Dr. Strangelove
JMO, I'm not making a big stink about it or anything, just making an observation.

It's just that the S stands for sport. On this board, it gives it an advantage over every other car in the category. Base cars belong in the non sports, sports based trim levels belong in the sports section. That's why the CTS V, VW GTi, Jag XJR and Taurus SHO aren't in here. That would be a better comparison against the S4.

It doesn't really matter, it's not like Audi is going to put "Dieselstation Car of the Year" in their next commercial.
moe
Strangelove, the XJR doesn't exist anymore. Instead, there's the XJ Supersport, which uses the XFR's hardware. It's included in this poll with the rest of the XJ range, as is the Taurus SHO, and Fusion Sport. The S4 isn't winning because "S" stands for sport, it's winning because the VAGinas like it better. I really don't think the Audi's S badge is what it used to be. There was a time where the S4 was a competitor for the M3, and the RS4 was just added firepower. I think Audi's watered-down the S range, so that it now aims for the 335i, and the RS4 takes on the big boys. That's just my opinion on things, I know others will see it differently, but all the S4 comparison tests were against the 335i hence its inclusion here.
caster
QUOTE(Dr. Strangelove @ Mar 29 2010, 11:00 PM) *
It doesn't really matter, it's not like Audi is going to put "Dieselstation Car of the Year" in their next commercial.


I really wish that would happen, I think I'd be in awe or stunned if I saw a commercial like that...
dukenukem
QUOTE(caster @ Mar 30 2010, 11:59 AM) *
I really wish that would happen, I think I'd be in awe or stunned if I saw a commercial like that...

Hell no. If that happened the amount of yuppy douchebags that will flood this place is unimaginable.
moe
Yeah, I was going to say. The day that happens, is the day I leave DS.
Dr. Strangelove
We should send a trophy to the manufacturer who wins overall DSCOTY.
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