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DonJuanMair
Every once in a while ill have a rig shot thats a lot more work to clone out the rig. I havent had one for a while but i have one at the moment and its pretty tough.
Anyone else have these instances also?
Carbon fiber hoods are fun too smile.gif
JustinCesler
Yeah, some shots are just nightmares to work with. My last cover shot for Vette Magazine had one of those, where I thought I might not be able to get the rig out but luckily, I was able to.

I suggest you work on it for a while and then give it a day or two break. When you come back you will have a fresh perspective and it usually goes easier.
mackey
Myself and Mike Bowen rigged one of those cars that has a cage for a shell (forgetting the name) with virtually no body panels, so we had to use a couple extra clamps and magic arms to grip the bars, that wasn't fun cloning out because I had to basically replicate the suspension in one shot.

I agree with Justin, if it starts to get frustrating, take a break and come back to it.
DonJuanMair
glad im not alone!
im just doing it bit by bit like you guys said. I remember i did one like this before and was working on one part for at least 3 hours. I got tired and left it and then went to bed. I got up the next day to find that my wife had restarted the pc for some reason! now i save every 20 mins!
DonJuanMair
this is what im dealing with, the problem im having is getting the gradient of the paint work looking realistic.

mackey
eek.
Synesthesia
Oh damn, please post the final!
DonJuanMair
QUOTE(mackey @ Jan 16 2010, 09:49 PM) *
eek.


ha i know!


QUOTE(Synesthesia @ Jan 16 2010, 10:16 PM) *
Oh damn, please post the final!


i will do smile.gif
I think I have it now, just one more section left and I'm onto editing the actual pic and not the rig!
Martin
I'm supprised you got the rig on a mini at all, when I tried the hood was to weak.

Let us now how you solved it!
Mr.D
Did some basic clone job for you... you can use this and polish the rest
maciek.evo
that's sloppy tongue.gif smile.gif
Mr.D
Well, maybe its easier to work with something like this if you are feeling mentally blocked by the original. Besides there's no point in spending hours on fixing a small jpg, for me =)
maciek.evo
i know, but if i were you i wouldn't even touch this picture and if were Anthony i wouldn't use it on my photo smile.gif
DonJuanMair
i think if it were Mr D's image and he had a full res pic he would do a great job, i have seen his ps skills. But i have almost finished my edit......its not perfect but for having what i started with im happy.

Martin i hear you about the mini, its actually really difficult to get a rig shot on that thing, the hood is really curved and there are only a few areas where you can place the suction cups.
DonJuanMair
So here is a before;



and here is after;



i think this was the toughest rig shot i have worked on, i know its not perfect, but overall im happy with it. even at high res it looks real good still. The main problem i ran into was the gradient of the paint. It was interrupted by the huge shadows and then the actual rig blocking out most of the hood.\
I started working on the simple stuff first, the pole in the sky, the bumper and then the light. i found the light hard because it was curved so i couldnt just use the clone tool. I did what i could and then ran the liquify filter to put it where it should be.
Then onto the hood, i got rid of it the best i could but there was no way i could reproduce that gradient realistically. I reduced the opacity of the clone tool to 30% and started working from the darker area of the hood to the lighter area, then it started to blend a lot better. I used a couple of masks in areas and just added a gradient fill and used the darker red and the lighter red and then just added some noise to mach the rest of the hood.
Then the highlighted part of the hood i repeated that.....and then finished the windshield, which was easy.
daniele fontanin
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It's amazing!!! It's perfect in every detail...i can't understand how is it possible...Are you human Anthony???
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GFWilliams
erm.. one from today...



Stupid Minis...
Seethegrim
Nice job dude!

Quick question: Why do you guys always put your rigs on the bonnet? I've only once ever attached the rig to the bonnet (it also happened to be a soft-top car). The rest of the time, the roof is always so much easier!
Dragos
it gives you more extension. On the roof you need a longer rig smile.gif
GFWilliams
Also, bonnets tend to be stronger, so more likely to hold the weight of the rig without leaving a mark.. (apart from 911s)
DonJuanMair
QUOTE(GFWilliams @ Jan 24 2010, 07:45 AM) *
erm.. one from today...



Stupid Minis...


ha yeah, minis are hard because that area is the only area you can really put the suction cups, how are you getting on with this one?


QUOTE(Seethegrim @ Jan 25 2010, 04:52 AM) *
Nice job dude!

Quick question: Why do you guys always put your rigs on the bonnet? I've only once ever attached the rig to the bonnet (it also happened to be a soft-top car). The rest of the time, the roof is always so much easier!


thanks! my pole isnt long or sturdy enough for the roof, how long is your pole Seethegrim?

QUOTE(Dragos @ Jan 25 2010, 05:12 AM) *
it gives you more extension. On the roof you need a longer rig smile.gif


yeah mines only 10ft

QUOTE(GFWilliams @ Jan 25 2010, 05:37 AM) *
Also, bonnets tend to be stronger, so more likely to hold the weight of the rig without leaving a mark.. (apart from 911s)


911's leave a mark?
mackey
Depends on the car manufacturer. The black R35 GTR I shot left rings in the clear because the paint is so soft... oops.

The owners didn't tell us till after we did rigs the paint is soft.
GFWilliams
Here is the finished rig shot:


1920x1080: http://gfwilliams.net/Mini%20Wallpaper.jpg


Not perfect, but I'm happy smile.gif

911s seem to have very thin bonnets, so don't like having a heavy rig on them.. I didn't do any damage as I checked before I put it on, but I ended up putting it on the windscreen/rear window instead..
DonJuanMair
nice job and nice pic

i kind of did the same thing to a diablo the once. the guy did not look too impressed
GFWilliams
Thanks biggrin.gif

Try putting a rig on a Zonda the day you get your rig... Now that's SCARY!!
Nike SB'd
If these are your "hard" to remove reflections, I'd love to see your "easy" ones lol. Like Don said, wait until you have a car that's entirely carbon fiber... then you'll have some fun! lmao.
Synesthesia
QUOTE(Nike SB'd @ Feb 1 2010, 11:04 PM) *
If these are your "hard" to remove reflections, I'd love to see your "easy" ones lol. Like Don said, wait until you have a car that's entirely carbon fiber... then you'll have some fun! lmao.


Well why don't you post a before/after if you're so fancy? tongue.gif
MartijnGizmo
QUOTE(mackey @ Jan 25 2010, 08:42 PM) *
Depends on the car manufacturer. The black R35 GTR I shot left rings in the clear because the paint is so soft... oops.

The owners didn't tell us till after we did rigs the paint is soft.


Also happened to me on a black R35 GT-R, luckily it was a press-demo... tongue.gif
Nike SB'd
QUOTE(Synesthesia @ Feb 1 2010, 10:20 PM) *
Well why don't you post a before/after if you're so fancy? tongue.gif


Before


After


Final Image


Entire image build on my blog -

http://seanklingelhoefer.blogspot.com/2009...-for-super.html

Carbon fiber + vinyl graphics + rig moving in everyframe = headache X100000
Jacob Photo
holy................ unsure.gif

I didn't realize that everything was CF like that. If I shot that image, i'd probably give up and throw the CF card (and my external drive) off my 3rd story balcony into the passing metro train below.


..... which is probably why I don't have a rig!
GFWilliams
I've done a video of how I edited my scooby rig shot (sped up as I couldn't find a mic to commentate and it gets boring otherwise!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2oUiAdVaU
JustinCesler
George that was a great video. I love watching different editing styles - fascinating!
Seethegrim
Yeah, nice one George. I still skipped most of the vid to the interesting parts, but good to see different methods for doing the same thing.
jcreech
Just blogged about a similar topic...

Removing Automotive Rigs in Post | A Creechure's PhotoBlog
Mr.D
Why don't you feather your paths?
jcreech
QUOTE(Mr.D @ Feb 12 2010, 04:44 AM) *
Why don't you feather your paths?


I do a lot of the times, but feathering is consistent across the whole path, whereas camera shake usually increases with relative distance. I just think there is a lot more control with the blur tool.
Kevve.be
@ George: great movie: thanks for sharing!
Yeah I have a few more rig shots that I think by myself I will never clean the rig out ,lol. Must say that CS4 is a good improvement for cleaning out a rig!
salo
Hi guys!))
The only thing you need while retouching hard photos is a music))
Mine:
Before


After:
TW0R
QUOTE(Dragos @ Jan 25 2010, 09:12 AM) *
it gives you more extension. On the roof you need a longer rig smile.gif


This is why I always do. My friends rig I use isn't that long and makes the car super distorted when I do it from the roof. When I get money to make a rig I'm gonna make it long as fuck lol.
Blue Devil
i gotta do a freaking rig shot... damn it... I am dying to try it out .....
Fabio
I've also put the rig on the bonnet, no problem at all...just had to take care with the stickers though!



this other one was obviously on the roof!

daniele fontanin
wow fabio!
great job as always!
Fabio
ty! that's old though!
tennfan1125
what type of trigger do you use
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