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TL 3.2l


TL Type S






Engine(s) 3.2L 258 hp (192 kW) V6
3.5L 286 hp (213 kW) V6 (Type-S only)
Transmission(s) 5-speed automatic
6-speed manual
Wheelbase 107.9 in (2741 mm)
Length 189.3 in (4808 mm)
Type-S: 189.8 in (4821 mm)
Width 72.2 in (1834 mm)
Height 56.7 in (1440 mm)

Courtesy of Edmunds:
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The current Acura TL receives a midlife freshening, but the big news is that the TL Type-S returns to the lineup after a three-year hiatus. Equipped with a 286-hp 3.5-liter V6, the Type-S also features a sport-tuned suspension, Brembo high-performance brakes and unique styling elements that include quad tailpipes. A six-speed manual or five-speed automatic with automanual shift paddles are no-cost options. The upgraded touchscreen and voice-activated navigation system with real-time traffic reporting is standard equipment on the Type-S, as is the rest of the TL's lengthy features list.

The regular TL receives minor styling tweaks and interior changes, including a sporty new three-spoke steering wheel. The updated navigation system is the only option, while the five-speed automatic becomes the only available transmission. The 258-hp 3.2-liter V6 remains unchanged.

Both versions of the TL come with an attractive, well-built interior designed with a more sporting intent in mind. Aluminum inlays, bright blue electroluminescent gauges and aggressively bolstered seats should appeal to enthusiasts, but may put off those looking for a more classic luxury look. Ergonomics are excellent, with redundant stereo controls on the radio faceplate, steering wheel, and optional touchscreen and voice commands. High-tech standard features also include Bluetooth phone connectivity, programmable driver memory functions and an excellent surround-sound stereo with six-CD/DVD audio changer and satellite radio.

In road tests we've always been impressed with the Acura TL's performance and handling abilities, but ultimately find that its front-wheel-drive setup can't compete with rear-drive models like the Infiniti G35, Lexus IS 350 or BMW 335i. The Type-S ups the ante somewhat, boosting power without noticeable understeer. However, until Acura offers its Super Handling All-Wheel Drive system on the TL or even switches to rear-wheel drive (unlikely), the TL will remain a few steps behind its top competitors. For a majority of shoppers, though, the TL will provide a good mix of fun, comfort and convenience at a reasonable price.
Synesthesia
Rarely do I think this way, but here goes anyway. The TL is a really boring car and very meh on the coolness scale. However, there's a TL around here (I should get a picture) that's slightly modified and it looks gorgeous. So much better than the stock TL and actually makes me want a TL a little bit. That car makes the TL cool for me. tongue.gif
Razor
Barely cool, only cool because of the Type-S.
moe
Uncool. The drive on the non-Type-S versions is pretty dull (with almost no steering feel), there are several better (and some RWD) options available at this price level, the interior is boring, and at the end of the day all it really is is a sexed-up Accord.
clarkma5
Since there was already an Acura TL poll, I clarified that this one is for the 2007+ refreshed model.

I went with uncool. This generation of TL have always been nice looking cars, but the facelift knocked them down a peg or two and the Type-S is a joke.
Razor
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Feb 27 2008, 04:32 PM) *
the Type-S is a joke.


What do you mean?
clarkma5
Nose-heavy front driver that everyone's going to order with an automatic anyway? I mean, when the old TL Type-S came out, 260 HP was a big deal, but these days 286 is playing catch-up, all while the new Type-S tends to be costlier than many of its more worth competitors.
Razor
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Feb 27 2008, 04:58 PM) *
Nose-heavy front driver that everyone's going to order with an automatic anyway? I mean, when the old TL Type-S came out, 260 HP was a big deal, but these days 286 is playing catch-up, all while the new Type-S tends to be costlier than many of its more worth competitors.


It's FWD? Change my vote to uncool.
clarkma5
Wow you didn't know that?

Vote changed.
mung35
We have one. Great car to take to work in commute and great on long drives. Not so great in town.

Cool
Razor
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Feb 27 2008, 06:02 PM) *
Wow you didn't know that?


Nope, I thought Acura had a shred of common sense. Guess not! tongue.gif
mung35
QUOTE(Razor @ Feb 27 2008, 03:54 PM) *
Nope, I thought Acura had a shred of common sense. Guess not! tongue.gif


There's a difference between common sense and performance oriented. This class was built for your 30-50 year old middle management commuting white collar employee. It's a phenomenal car for that purpose.
Razor
QUOTE(mung35 @ Feb 27 2008, 09:06 PM) *
There's a difference between common sense and performance oriented. This class was built for your 30-50 year old middle management commuting white collar employee. It's a phenomenal car for that purpose.


I thought the Type-S was performance oriented? Well, I guess it's just rims-and-body-kit faux performance then.
Frederf
Uncool. It's just so blah and uninteresting. The only saving grace from the clarkma5 uncool category is the interior. The dash is pretty good.
maxima302
I really like the TL. True that its FWD is the main thing hinging its ability to become a real sports sedan. Would I buy one over a G35? hell no.

Hopefully the next gen will get RWD, but highly unlikely. At the least, we could hope for SH-AWD. I think that this, along with a lack of a V8 option is the main reason why the current RL failed to impress.
moe
QUOTE(Razor @ Feb 28 2008, 03:54 AM) *
Nope, I thought Acura had a shred of common sense. Guess not! tongue.gif


They lost most of that when the NSX went out of production, though they got a little back by making the RL AWD.

QUOTE(maxima302 @ Feb 28 2008, 09:30 AM) *
Hopefully the next gen will get RWD, but highly unlikely. At the least, we could hope for SH-AWD. I think that this, along with a lack of a V8 option is the main reason why the current RL failed to impress.


I read somewhere that Acura is going to offer SH-AWD on all its new models, at least as an option. So expect that on the next-gen TL and TSX. As for the RL, with its supposedly brilliant SH-AWD system, I don't think RWD is neccessary. A more powerful engine (not neccesarily a V8) was defintely due for making the best of quite capable chassis however. More interesting exterior styling would've helped also...
Synesthesia
QUOTE(Razor @ Feb 27 2008, 10:35 PM) *
I thought the Type-S was performance oriented? Well, I guess it's just rims-and-body-kit faux performance then.


Well it's not like they're going to change a FWD car to RWD...unless you thought the normal TL was RWD, in which case you're just silly and not dumb. wink.gif
maxima302
QUOTE(moethepaki @ Feb 28 2008, 03:31 AM) *
They lost most of that when the NSX went out of production, though they got a little back by making the RL AWD.
I read somewhere that Acura is going to offer SH-AWD on all its new models, at least as an option. So expect that on the next-gen TL and TSX. As for the RL, with its supposedly brilliant SH-AWD system, I don't think RWD is neccessary. A more powerful engine (not neccesarily a V8) was defintely due for making the best of quite capable chassis however. More interesting exterior styling would've helped also...


I always thought the last generation RL was really great looking! Big, boxy, my style! The V8 is more of a marketing ploy... if people are paying for a "range toping" car they want an 8-cyl. If they could, Caddy would cut its 8-cyl program for the STS and DTS. But from a marketing standpoint, they need those engine options.

RWD is always necessary biggrin.gif No AWD wtih FWD bias BS!
Synesthesia
^So either the Altima is a company car or you're a hypocrite? tongue.gif
moe
He's got the Merc as well, I don't think the Altima really matters.
maxima302
QUOTE(Synesthesia @ Feb 29 2008, 07:47 PM) *
^So either the Altima is a company car or you're a hypocrite? tongue.gif


yeah the Altima is a company car, which I don't even have anymore, I've got something else now.

And it does suck that it was FWD... the torque steer was downright scary at times. Especially since mine was a port damaged mis-spec'd vehicle. When I was ordering the car, there was a steel shortage, so cars were taking 4-5 months to from build to delivery, so I took whatever was ready. Mine was a base 3.5SE with no ABS, traction, a 5 speed and summer tires... scary to say the least.

Regarding the TL, its in the same segment as many other RWD entry lux cars, so RWD for it would make competitive sense. But considering its a shared platform, the best we could hope for is retro-fitted SH-AWD.

My poor Mercedes is on the way out too... 246,000 miles and over $8,000 in repairs in 2007 haha !

Here is a pic of her, sorry for getting "off topic"

moe
^ That's a pretty sweet Merc, you should post in the User's Rides section. What'd you get instead of the Altima?

As for the RL, while the pre-facelift was a fairly handsome car, it was also extremely boring. I think a car in that market segment needs to be a lot more stylish to succeed. The GS/5/A6/M/E/9-5/STS are a pretty stylish bunch.
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