So, if Jensen doesn't score a single point for the rest of the season, and Rubens scores fewer than 4 points in either Brazil or AD, he cannot challenge for the championship. Furthermore, it doesn't seem likely that JB won't score any points...he was screwed in Japan by Buemi, but came back for an eighth place through driving skill, and a wee bit of luck.

At this point, Vettel is just as much a threat, although Vettel is on his last engines...so he might not be as much of a threat as the points would suggest.

What do you think?

I think JB has it all but wrapped up...

Button will win the title in Brazil if...
He finishes third or better
OR Vettel finishes lower than second and Barrichello finishes lower than fourth
OR he outscores Barrichello by four points
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport...one/8289333.stm


It would totally suck if Button loses...but it reminds me of 2007 with Kimi. Anything is possible, but I think he'll win.

Barrichello now needs 7 points over Jenson in each of the next two races...it was 5 points per race before Suzuka. It was 3.5 points per race before Singapore...it just keeps sliding away from him. Of course all it takes is for Button to crash somewhere to have his rivals pick up a strong podium or win, but that's not the most likely scenario. Nothing's done yet but yeah any betting man would bet on Button I'm sure.

Vettel can pull a Raikkonen and win or Barrichello will have the upper hand at Brazil and Abu Dhabi with Jenson crashing out.

So, no, this championship is anything but finished.

On another note, after JB and RB almost didn't make it out of Q2 thanks to some silly timing and red flags, why would Ross Brawn hold them back so long in Q3. Button seems to always pull out the flier on his second hot lap. Definitely compromised him in qualifying.

Who do you guys want to win? I would love to see Vettel pull it off, but I like Button too.

I would love to see Button win. He's a good guy and a solid driver.

Vettel would be good too, and he would certainly have earned it.

Baricello is my least favorite to win, if only because I don't like the way he always whines about being denied a fair chance. It would be an awesome way for him to end his career.

I'd be happy to see any of these guys win the title. If Button won it, it would be for his amazing early season form and his ability to stay cool and fight for points when things don't go well, which is damned admirable. If Barrichello won it, it would be reward for him being at the top of his game late in his career and would be a really cool change of pace for him after being clearly #2 to Schumacher for so long. If Vettel won it, it would be for staying in the hunt despite reliability problems and of course for the excitement of coming from behind late in the season. All very worthwhile ways to win a championship.

Amen to that. Though as a longtime Button supporter, I'm definitely aching to see him win his first championship.

I think Jenson has it now. A good result in Brazil should see to that. But this season has thrown up all sorts of surprises! Nothing has been predictable.

I want to see Jenson win it because I've said he's a great driver just needed the right car for a long time and at last he has had the car (all season) so I don't want him to throw it away now. I would like to see him win one of the last 2 races, or at least a podium so he can celebrate properly. I.e Hamilton last year.

Like eveyone else though, Barrichello played second fiddle for so long that I wouldn't be too disappointed if he won it and obviously I would prefer to see one of my Dad's teams' drivers win the title. Vettel is a decent guy and a great driver, so if he wins it from his position now he would most certainly deserve it!

Way to fucking go Button, way to fucking go!

A brilliant drive, to put his critics in their place! A fantastic achievement for the team given what they've come from! So so pleased for them all! Woooooo get in!

that was a bloody epic race..full of action. and ofcourse, congrats to button and Brawn.

Must have been nice to watch this race not knowing what to expect.

At least you guys didn't have it ruined before you could watch it by a collosal fucktard who is now banned 4 lyfe from the channel

It showed up as a headline from BBC in my RSS feed. I was happy and pissed off at the same time. News sites should have spoiler alerts.

I always steer clear of here, Twitter, Facebook, and any other media until I see the race.

My old DVR setup had a really nasty habit of spoiling races too. If you were watching something as it was recording, the video would skip to the end as the recording stopped. So I would be watching a battle, getting excited, then bam. There is Schumacher's smiling face on the top step of the podium.

I watched the race regardless of the spoiler after I finally found some time. Button was epic.

I'll have to watch. I grabbed the torrent but after deciding I wouldn't have the time to watch it till this weekend that I might as well spoil it for myself, before I let Autoblog or even the CBC do it for me.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport...one/8322334.stm

I'm all up for a British affair.

lol, it'd be Senna and Prost all over again. Button/Prost, with the silky smooth no thrills no sliding style and Hamilton/Senna with the emotional win-or-nothing attitude.

Button should stick with Brawn. McLaren is Hamilton's team and I don't see that changing any time soon. If he went there it'd be a move based on money and it'd be an uphill battle internally the whole time.

And you thought I didn't read this forum. Oh well, I'll just unban myself again.

When did I ever say you didn't read this forum? I could care less.

And, don't worry, it's not just me that's banning you from the channel. You don't get much douchier and stuck up than this:

[15:44] * Razor (899294da@pier-6688DE65.mibbit.com) has joined #crankshafted
[15:44] * GLaDOS sets mode: +o Razor
[15:45] <@Razor> Hi there, just thought I'd let you know I can unban myself as I please
[15:45] <@Razor> but thanks for your kind attention.
[15:45] * @Razor (899294da@pier-6688DE65.mibbit.com) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)

I can't think of the last time Phix said something I didn't agree with... even if it was contrary to my own statement!

After almost three years of putting up with your shit, do you honestly expect me to take that statement seriously?

I love how defensive you're getting considering you're not the one who just had something that you were following since March ruined.

It was the least I could do, I'm just sorry I caught Clark in the fire as well.

..."it was the least I could do"? What kind of unapologetic fuckhead are you? If this is because you have some thing with phix, you're a fucking moron. Phix can't be taken serious for an instant, and it's a failing on your part if you're in some retarded war with him.

Oh well. We already knew that though, didn't we? Quit beating a dead horse, then. I guess I'll just start taking it and not retaliating in any way, shape, or form every time I have some pointlessly overdone attack on me. The only reason I can unban myself is because I'm not the only one who finds him too over the top.

The only fucking reason you can unban yourself is because, like everyone else in the channel, is put on an automatic auto-op list for the server. That's it.

I kinda miss the channel. It was like DS Espresso. All the fun distilled.

Razor, you're at least as guilty of escalating this as he is, and I repeat that you're an unapologetic fuckhead. Phix and I have been following this F1 season in every little detail since it started and while we waited for the potentially title-deciding pentultimate round to finish downloading so we could watch and find out for ourselves what happens, you came in and spoiled it. You blew eight month's worth of anticipation for two people who were very excited to discover for themselves what happened, without so much as a spoiler alert or asking if we knew the outcome of the race yet. AND YET you remain defensive.

I know more about phix than any human should have to know, and he's a real person with his own unique ups and downs. I know he spends too much time being personally offended by people who are on his shit list, and you are one of those people, but you could at least do yourself a favor and stop giving him genuine reasons to hate your guts.

Back OT, Button won't got to McLaren, it's just media hype. I don't think an all British team would work, especially not with those too, it would end in disaster, or at least mild peril.

He wants to stay at Brawn and from what I've heard the deal is almost done now.

Personally, I'd love to see Kimi back at McLaren.

Mercedes is supposed to be interested in buying a controlling share in Brawn though, and have an Abu Dhabi investment (that happens to own shares in MB) hold on to it for them until their deal with McLaren ends in '11.



I would too, but it appears Hakkinnen is advising McLaren against getting rid of Kovalinen. (Fuck I can't spell any of the Finnish guys' names.)

The only reason I think McLaren should hold onto Kovalinen is because Hamilton would like a Rubens Barichello (to Schumacher), or a Giancarlo Fisichella (to Alonso) #2.

Which is why I don't think he would leave Brawn, that's all positive. If it's all to be believed why would he move to a team that could have an uncertain future ahead?