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Phix
To start this off there's something very important for people to know: THIS IS A REBOOT OF THE FRANCHISE AND THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED BY A DEVELOPMENT TEAM WITH CORE MEMBERS FROM SIMBIN (The dudes who made GTR, GTR2, Race - The WTCC Game, Race 07 etc. etc. etc. the super sims) SO DON'T BE SO QUICK TO WRITE IT OFF!

With that obnoxious but necessary intro out of the way here's some quick bullet points about the game blatantly ripped off from Wikipedia:

* Physics model of NFS: Shift is based on those of the “Ferrari Project”
* Professional setting is more accurate to drive than in GTR2
* Eero Piitulainen of Richard Burns Rally has developed a totally new tire-physics model which is mainly responsible for the new physics
* The difference between the 3 physics-models is in assist levels, while the lowest setting will provide around 10% of more tire grip for beginners
* Lots of effort has gone into handling development so the game can be driven with a controller
* Professional setting will require a wheel in order to successfully manage throttle/braking and steering inputs
* Shift will feature different car classes - from normal cars like the Golf GTI up to racing cars like the Aston Martin DBR9
* All cars can be upgraded and tuned from the inside-out
* Most tracks are licensed European and American circuits with few non-existing tracks
* There will be few city-circuits
* The cockpit is the most important visual feature of the game
* Head-physics is the key difference point to other titles[6]
* The career mode will span over a total of 125 events

And here's a link to a quicklook video of in-game stuff of the 360 version: http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-need-f...-shift/17-1351/

A link to the official site which has the car list and track list: http://shift.needforspeed.com/us

No, I wasn't paid to make this thread. I made this thread because I feel like a lot of people WILL be passing it off thinking it's just another modern NFS which blows. It's had a radical overhaul in terms of physics, developer, and gameplay style and I feel like it definitely deserves a chance. Especially since the marketing for the game hasn't either a) kicked in or just b] isn't that aggressive.
Phix
Oh, and keep note that the quicklook vid i posted the guy playing has all the assists on and damage off.

An interesting point is definitely the upgrade screen, too.
BlackJack
Yeah, I saw a couple trailers and gameplays of it and it really looks like it could blow my mind. I'm justifying asking for a 360 for my birthday along with the game instead of a 32" flat screen TV for the new Studio. Hmm....
Altostratus
once sony fixes my muse DS_tears.gif
Phix
I'm just buying it for the PC.
BlackJack
^With the realism and quality that high, good luck.

I just think the 360 would be a lot better.
Phix
QUOTE(BlackJack @ Sep 11 2009, 10:55 PM) *
^With the realism and quality that high, good luck.

I just think the 360 would be a lot better.

I don't follow? If anything it would be easier on the PC not to mention guaranteed smoother framerates and graphics quality.
BlackJack
No. from my view, playing games on the PC can be a PITA because then you have to really configure the settings to get it perfect, but even so, it won't still be perfect as you see in the trailers and gameplays. Console systems skip the configurations and goes straight to the games.
Aircooled
QUOTE(BlackJack @ Sep 11 2009, 10:55 PM) *
^With the realism and quality that high, good luck.

I just think the 360 would be a lot better.


Like hell, the 360 has antiquated graphics technology now. I spent a 360's worth of money on my graphics cards alone, they should run this like butter.
BlackJack
I have an Nividia 8600GT 1gig drivers all up to date and it wont play crysis in max quality.
Phix
QUOTE(BlackJack @ Sep 11 2009, 11:17 PM) *
No. from my view, playing games on the PC can be a PITA because then you have to really configure the settings to get it perfect, but even so, it won't still be perfect as you see in the trailers and gameplays. Console systems skip the configurations and goes straight to the games.

Oh, you mean adjusting the resolution? Or, considering that 99% of games today all have a Low, Medium, and High graphics detail setting for people who don't know what Anti-aliasing and Anisoptroic filtering means?

Consoles also tend to cap their framerates around 30fps and run at lower resolutions than a PC can handle.

Not to mention that since this game /was/ developed concurrently with the console and PC versions any PC in the past year with a decent graphics card should have no problem running it at 360-level graphics and framerates on the PC.

Plus, if I wanted to use my 360 controller I can buy a wireless receiver which plugs into the USB port or just use my steering wheel. Steering wheels which are abundant in the PC peripheral market.

QUOTE(BlackJack @ Sep 11 2009, 11:24 PM) *
I have an Nividia 8600GT 1gig drivers all up to date and it wont play crysis in max quality.

Not a lot of computers in the world can. Crysis is a well known resource hog and a huge taxing engine. Except Crysis, along with pretty much any other computer game, is scalable and in the case of Crysis there isn't much difference in graphics quality between Medium and Max.
BlackJack
Thus, taking Crysis into account, Shift could be the same.
Phix


That's me right now.

QUOTE(BlackJack @ Sep 11 2009, 11:26 PM) *
Thus, taking Crysis into account, Shift could be the same.

The Crysis engine wasn't developed to run on consoles though. It was strictly a PC endeavour.
BlackJack
Haha. Still, I'm getting Shift for 360. If Shift just happens to 'show up' online for me to download for PC I'll give that a shot as well.

QUOTE(Phix @ Sep 11 2009, 11:27 PM) *
The Crysis engine wasn't developed to run on consoles though. It was strictly a PC endeavour.


Okay, what about Grand Theft Auto 4? Mine couldn't play it to max just mediocre.
Phix
That was a port of a game which was optimized for consoles. You'll usually find a lot of console to PC ports to be pretty poorly optimized with tons of memory leaks.

That's the trend though. If you spend years developing a game for a console-specific or PC-specific system then naturally you'll want to build the engine around the hardware. Ports which come out months or years later tend to be either rush jobs or just horribly optimized.
Altostratus
crysis 2 for PS3 FTW
moe
QUOTE(Phix @ Sep 12 2009, 07:27 AM) *


^ That looks like Clarkma.
clarkma5
Nuh-uh.
caster
I was just about to post this and then I saw this thread, IGN gave it a 9/10, thats REALLY good, especially for a NFS game. Check out the review: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/102/1023568p1.html
moe
It looks pretty impressive. I'll probably pick up a copy for my PS3 when it hits stores.
Phix
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-.../55818?type=flv

Holy hot damn check out that preview. There's a lot of in-cockpit footage and holy shit is that shit detailed. I think the most impressive for me was the detail on the S2000 dash.

I'm definitely picking this up on Sept. 15th.
BlackJack
^Service Unavailable.
Phix
Works fine for me.
BlackJack
In anticipation of Shift, I just 'got' Carbon, Undercover, and Prostreet. biggrin.gif
Razor
QUOTE(BlackJack @ Sep 13 2009, 10:33 AM) *
In anticipation of Shift, I just 'got' Carbon, Undercover, and Prostreet. biggrin.gif


So you can see just how shit all of those are first? tongue.gif
BlackJack
Exactly biggrin.gif. But before I play Shift, I thought Carbon was the best and then Prostreet.
Razor
QUOTE(BlackJack @ Sep 13 2009, 11:41 AM) *
Exactly biggrin.gif. But before I play Shift, I thought Carbon was the best and then Prostreet.


Really? I'd go ProStreet, Undercover, Carbon. Of course Most Wanted is better than all of those.
DB9
I liked the Canyon drifts in carbon, but that was it. Hated prostreet. I don't think I played Undercover.
SwissWhiskey
Best need for speed game was Hot Pursuit 2. whistle.gif

Remove the F from "shift" and there ya go. It looks a lot better then all the previous games, but Im sure you can still go around a tight corner at 300km/h...

I'm staying with GTR Evo and Rfactor.
Aircooled
Just watched that trailer and WOW, it looks good. I'll most def have to pick it up and race Phix.
moe
QUOTE(SwissWhiskey @ Sep 13 2009, 11:04 PM) *
Remove the F from "shift" and there ya go. It looks a lot better then all the previous games, but Im sure you can still go around a tight corner at 300km/h...


Really? 9/10 from at least one source, amazing looking preview...and this whole thread was made to dispel the same preconceptions that you've brought into it. There's a blind statement if I've ever seen one.
BlackJack
Yeah, I'm sure swiss haven't seen the trailers yet. Swiss go see it. I PROMISE you will take back what you just said.

EDIT: The trailers and gameplays prove that it's more realistic and you can't go around a tight curve at 300KM/H. So SwissWhiskey, you FAIL!
Phix
QUOTE(SwissWhiskey @ Sep 13 2009, 03:04 PM) *
Best need for speed game was Hot Pursuit 2. whistle.gif

Remove the F from "shift" and there ya go. It looks a lot better then all the previous games, but Im sure you can still go around a tight corner at 300km/h...

I'm staying with GTR Evo and Rfactor.

....yeah, and the same guys who made GTR a core number of them from SimBin made Shift.

They've already said that with all the assists off it's more accurate in regards to realism than even GTR2.

Let's just remove S, w, i, s, s, w, h, i, s, k, e, y and replace it with DUMBASS WHO LACKS READING COMPREHENSION.
Matt_L
From the video I can tell that the GTR Evo physics are better than this, but I'll wait to give my final judgment until I actually test the game. Looks like a nice game anyway!
Phix
QUOTE(Matt_L @ Sep 13 2009, 10:33 PM) *
From the video I can tell that the GTR Evo physics are better than this, but I'll wait to give my final judgment until I actually test the game. Looks like a nice game anyway!

The videos are all with assists on and damage off.

They've already said there are 3 physics levels with the beginner level offering 10% more grip.
BlackJack
Man Phix, you are really set on with this game eh?
Phix
I'm just trying to get people to not pass it off cause of the NFS bit at the front of its name. That's all.

The biggest bit for me is the fact that Eero Lutinenenenenene is doing the tire modeling which is the same guy who did the Richard Burns Rally tire modeling. That's a huge huge HUGE plus in my book. Anyone who's played RBR can vouch for its authenticity and brutal realism in regards to the handling and realistic grip offered. That's why I'm so hyped up about this game.

That, and I just hate people who ignore the facts and spew their own poorly formed opinions based on a brand image regardless of how badly raped that brand image is without looking at the individual products instead in general.
Razor
QUOTE(Phix @ Sep 13 2009, 10:52 PM) *
That, and I just hate people who ignore the facts and spew their own poorly formed opinions based on a brand image regardless of how badly raped that brand image is without looking at the individual products instead in general.


Aircooled
Yeah, all macs suck, regardless
SwissWhiskey
QUOTE(Phix @ Sep 14 2009, 04:30 AM) *
....yeah, and the same guys who made GTR a core number of them from SimBin made Shift.

They've already said that with all the assists off it's more accurate in regards to realism than even GTR2.

Let's just remove S, w, i, s, s, w, h, i, s, k, e, y and replace it with DUMBASS WHO LACKS READING COMPREHENSION.


Phix how about you stop sucking NFS: Shift's dick.

I've seen trailers and some in game footage, and in my opinion it doesn't come close to GTR/rfactor, though i'll still most likely give it a try.
Phix
QUOTE(SwissWhiskey @ Sep 14 2009, 03:00 AM) *
Phix how about you stop sucking NFS: Shift's dick.

I've seen trailers and some in game footage, and in my opinion it doesn't come close to GTR/rfactor, though i'll still most likely give it a try.

I will suck this games dick and lick up every single drop and come back for seconds.

As long as people try it I'm all for it.

brb, gotta go pick up that fat cheque from EA.
moe
Hey guys (or mainly Phix)...Dirt 2 or Shift?
Phix
QUOTE(moe @ Sep 14 2009, 04:07 PM) *
Hey guys (or mainly Phix)...Dirt 2 or Shift?

SHIFT.

I played the demo of DiRT 2 on the 360 marketplace. I really hate the whole, uh, "attitude" of the game but if you're a white trash skater who has a hard on for all things DC and Ken Block you'll probably love it.

If you love grunge you'll probably love DiRT 2. If you love having customization options like putting hula girls on the top of your dash, you'll probably love DiRT 2. If you love listening to drivers (Block & Pastrana mostly) bitch in-game (yes, during a race that they're also "in") about how good, bad, or how much of a dick you are then you'll probably love DiRT 2.

It kills me too cause I played the shit out of DiRT and loved it.
moe
That actually sounds pretty annoying. I'll go with Shift.
Phix
Don't take my word for it. I dunno if you have access to the US marketplace on your 360? If not just make a profile and set the region to US.
DB9
Here's my main beef with this game: It's coming out at around the same time as Forza 3. I'll probably rent it and try it out, though. It definitely has potential.
moe
360's my roommates. PS3's mine. I watched a few trailers, I'm definitely feeling Shift more. I'm more into circuit-racing than rallying in any case.
Razor
QUOTE(Phix @ Sep 14 2009, 04:31 PM) *
SHIFT.

I played the demo of DiRT 2 on the 360 marketplace. I really hate the whole, uh, "attitude" of the game but if you're a white trash skater who has a hard on for all things DC and Ken Block you'll probably love it.

If you love grunge you'll probably love DiRT 2. If you love having customization options like putting hula girls on the top of your dash, you'll probably love DiRT 2. If you love listening to drivers (Block & Pastrana mostly) bitch in-game (yes, during a race that they're also "in") about how good, bad, or how much of a dick you are then you'll probably love DiRT 2.

It kills me too cause I played the shit out of DiRT and loved it.


Wow... I didn't think it was possible for them to ruin a game with that name. sad.gif
Phix
QUOTE(Razor @ Sep 14 2009, 11:13 PM) *
Wow... I didn't think it was possible for them to ruin a game with that name. sad.gif

Yeah, DiRT was basically the neatly kept, professional, European development/style while DiRT 2 was purely focused on "Americanizing" it and the X-Games was a huge inspiration for the visual style and attitude of the game.

There ya go.
moe
You know what, screw it. I'm just going to get both. I don't have any racing games anyway.
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