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arnge
engine Carlsson CK55 V8
position Front Longitudinal
aspiration Supercharged
valvetrain SOHC w/3 Valves per Cyl
displacement 5439 cc / 331.9 cu in
bore 97 mm / 3.82 in
stroke 92 mm / 3.62 in
power 417.6 kw / 560 bhp @ 6000 rpm
hp per litre 102.96 bhp per litre
bhp/weight 323.7 bhp per weight
torque 810 nm / 597.4 ft lbs @ 2600 rpm
drive wheels RWD
body / frame Unit Steel
front brakes AMG Ventilated Discs w/ABS, ESP
rear brakes AMG Ventilated Discs w/ABS, ESP
front wheels F 45.7 x 21.6 cm / 18.0 x 8.5 in
rear wheels R 45.7 x 24.1 cm / 18 x 9.5 in
front tire size 255/40-18
rear tire size 285/35-18
steering AMG Rack & Pinion w/Power Assist
f suspension AMG 4-Link MacPherson Struts w/AIRMATIC DC
r suspension AMG Multilink w/AIRMATIC DC
weight 1730 kg / 3814 lbs
wheelbase 2854 mm / 112.4 in
front track 1593 mm / 62.7 in
rear track 1603 mm / 63.1 in
length 4913 mm / 193.4 in
width 1851 mm / 72.9 in
height 1373 mm / 54.1 in
transmission AMG 5-Speed Speedshift
top speed 320 kph / 198.8 mph
0 - 60 mph 4.5 seconds





fiber optic
Mobil wants their logo back.
Fox
Supercharged = puke
Price?

nice car!
Dylan
The CLS is sooo sexy.
nismo
Okay, well then what happens when AC Schnitzer mods an M5? BYE BYE MERCADES!
arnge
QUOTE(nismo @ Apr 28 2005, 12:12 PM)
Okay, well then what happens when AC Schnitzer mods an M5? BYE BYE MERCADES!

Brabus will kick its butt too.
goota
QUOTE(Dylan @ Apr 28 2005, 01:01 PM)
The CLS is sooo sexy.

damn man, that is pretty freakin sexy.
Phix
I'm no fan of the wheels but wow... yeah, that IS petty sexy. But it looks so incredibly heavy....
TrueSlideXL
I'd like to have those rims, actually but they are probably out of my price range.
Phix
3814lbs?! Rip out the interior and put on some lighter rims for the love of God with some lighter body panels...


...is how i'd do it.
arnge
QUOTE(PHiX @ Apr 28 2005, 03:29 PM)
3814lbs?! Rip out the interior and put on some lighter rims for the love of God with some lighter body panels...


...is how i'd do it.

No it is not , MERC. always had a way with wight i.e SL 55 AMG
idiot
i'd take the M5 over this... bling...
eraser_rx
well.....that can only compare to AC Schnitzer mod M5 (if there is one) which will be also bling........
moe89
well, the M5 will handle better probably wink.gif . But this is definatley cooler looking! DS_Naughty2.gif
clarkma5
Mercedes CLS = Automatic.

Plus, it's a mercedes. The M5 is far superior.
Boxster17
Would much rather have an M5 over this thing, but it's nice none the less.
Phix
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Apr 28 2005, 10:42 PM)
Mercedes CLS = Automatic.

Plus, it's a mercedes. The M5 is far superior.

Ew. What's with Merc and autoboxes? I mean.... why would anybody mate an autobox to a 600bhp+ car. Why!?!


Also, shouldn't you be on a boat heading towards the bottom of the ocean by now?
PAULIE_D
Yeah, well... at least the M5 is a factory-built model.. not an aftermarket tuner model.
TrueSlideXL
Those rims are light, they are from the Carlsson lightweight series, they are just polished to a high glean.
snakefood
sex!
høgh
QUOTE(nismo @ Apr 28 2005, 10:12 PM)
Okay, well then what happens when AC Schnitzer mods an M5? BYE BYE MERCADES!

Yeah, IF they ever gonna do that.


But if this car handles like a Mercedes, then BMW has nothing to worry about.
arnge
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Apr 28 2005, 06:42 PM)
Plus, it's a mercedes. The M5 is far superior.

Is this a joke " CLS , SL , SLK ,S-CLASS, CL"
when u talk superior talk merc.
clarkma5
...I just don't like mercedes. THey have the totally WRONG philosophy.

Their interiors are poorly designed, the cars themselves are badly built inside and out, the engines are all power but the cars themselves are too heavy and lazily engineered to be good handlers. Plus, there is the almost complete lack of manual transmissions in mercedes. (the SLK350 and various C-classes are available with them, but out of a model lineup made up of dozens of models and their variations, that's just pitiful).

So, yeah, I hate mercedes, they suck.
arnge
I hated MERC. at first man but then i drove one.
it was magic. u have to love it. MERC. is for luxury u know high end cars gives u an unmatchable satisfaction.
clarkma5
Uhhhhh...right.

Pardon me for doubting it, honestly.
arnge
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Apr 29 2005, 10:26 AM)
Uhhhhh...right.

Pardon me for doubting it, honestly.

It is ok , u had an opinion and i respect it, but i would like u to take a high end MERC. to a test drive " with the auto box " and i know u will change ur mind.
clarkma5
Well, a $90k merc is probably a great drive compared to the stuff I drive regularly, but compare THAT merc to a comparable BMW, Audi, even Porsche or Aston Martin...and I will bet that the Merc will be at the bottom of my list of cars to drive.
arnge
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Apr 29 2005, 01:47 PM)
Well, a $90k merc is probably a great drive compared to the stuff I drive regularly, but compare THAT merc to a comparable BMW, Audi, even Porsche or Aston Martin...and I will bet that the Merc will be at the bottom of my list of cars to drive.

I can compare MERC. to BMW and AUDI , knowing it will win, but i can't compare it to PORSHE or ASTON coz i know it will be butt kicked.
moe89
QUOTE(arnge @ Apr 29 2005, 01:54 PM)
I can compare MERC. to BMW and AUDI , knowing it will win, but i can't compare it to PORSHE or ASTON coz i know it will be butt kicked.

i doubt that this could handle better than the M5 or the RS6(not to mention the upcoming one). But this is a tuner and will cost BIG BUCKS, much much more than the original sticker price for the CLS55 AMG
PandaBeat
I'd take the CLS55 over the M5. No fucking doubt... the CLS is gorgeous while the 5 looks like the shit I took this morning... actually my shit looks better.
nismo
What arnge is not understanding is that he is comparing a HEAVILY MODIFIED Mercades to an M5. I still think the stock M5 is much better. Now, when A german tuner modifies the hell out of the M5, bye bye mercades...... Yet again.
moe89
QUOTE(nismo @ Apr 29 2005, 06:38 PM)
What arnge is not understanding is that he is comparing a HEAVILY MODIFIED Mercades to an M5. I still think the stock M5 is much better. Now, when A german tuner modifies the hell out of the M5, bye bye mercades...... Yet again.

and, i'm not sure he realizes that this tuned one will cost a HELL of alot more than it normally would.
arnge
QUOTE(nismo @ Apr 29 2005, 06:38 PM)
What arnge is not understanding is that he is comparing a HEAVILY MODIFIED Mercades to an M5. I still think the stock M5 is much better. Now, when A german tuner modifies the hell out of the M5, bye bye mercades...... Yet again.

I amso sorry to disapoint u but M power company is a tuner for BMW cars so it is not a standered BMW as AMG with MERC. so i was just comparing a tuner to another but instead M power - AMG fight i have chosen another company ... ok . ?
nismo
Umm, "M power'' is a branch of BMW. So if you wanted to make it fair, You would put the CLS AMG against the m5. And the M5 would still kick the Mercedes' ass anyways.
Espen
Lets see it run a low 8 at the Ring, then maybe we might agree that it's faster. I even doubt that it will beat the M5 in a straight line. But kick the M5s ass? Sure... laugh.gif

The M5 is major league fast - not "fast for a sedan" or "fast for a 4-door" - it's full on Gallardo and 911 turbo fast. And even if it was'nt massively fast, it's reallty nice to drive, hides its weight well, comfortable, beautiful interior, wonderful engine note. I'd love it even if it only had half of 500hp.
idiot
QUOTE(arnge @ Apr 30 2005, 03:53 PM)
I amso sorry to disapoint u but M power company is a tuner for BMW cars so it is not a standered BMW as AMG with MERC. so i was just comparing a tuner to another but instead M power - AMG fight i have chosen another company ... ok . ?

what are you talking about..

"M" from BMW is not a tuner.. it's a in house tuner for BMW, just like AMG for Mercedes Benz

BMW M: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M
AMG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aufrecht_Melc...her_Grossaspach

and I don't really understand your sentence.
porschedream
Yeah, idiot is right, M is a sub-company of BMW, just like AMG, they're considered to be regular standard cars. They're sold directly from the manufacturer so are therefore sub-companies. Now a company Hamann or Carlsson are totally different, they are not sold as cars directly from the dealerships.
z0ne
QUOTE(porschedream @ Apr 30 2005, 11:52 PM)
Yeah, idiot is right, M is a sub-company of BMW, just like AMG, they're considered to be regular standard cars. They're sold directly from the manufacturer so are therefore sub-companies. Now a company Hamann or Carlsson are totally different, they are not sold as cars directly from the dealerships.

so, how would you buy a car from a company like Brabus, Carlsson, Hamann, or RUF?

do they have their own dealerships? call-to-order?
eraser_rx
QUOTE(arnge @ Apr 30 2005, 12:53 PM)
I amso sorry to disapoint u but M power company is a tuner for BMW cars so it is not a standered BMW as AMG with MERC. so i was just comparing a tuner to another but instead M power - AMG fight i have chosen another company ... ok . ?

like clarkma5 told me when i did a stupid mistake......

i'll have to say, "i never knew arnge was that stupid"
eraser_rx
QUOTE(z0ne @ Apr 30 2005, 09:21 PM)
so, how would you buy a car from a company like Brabus, Carlsson, Hamann, or RUF?

do they have their own dealerships? call-to-order?

according to their websites.....you have to buy the cars from specific distributors........or online......
moe89
QUOTE(arnge @ Apr 30 2005, 12:53 PM)
I amso sorry to disapoint u but M power company is a tuner for BMW cars so it is not a standered BMW as AMG with MERC. so i was just comparing a tuner to another but instead M power - AMG fight i have chosen another company ... ok . ?

no, see the car that is in this picture is a Carlsson, not an AMG. so it will cost MUCH more than the AMG will.
porschedream
QUOTE(z0ne @ May 1 2005, 01:21 AM)
so, how would you buy a car from a company like Brabus, Carlsson, Hamann, or RUF?

do they have their own dealerships? call-to-order?

You buy the products online or through a certified dealer. Hard to come buy unless you live in a big city or want to wait a while for you parts.
arnge
QUOTE(eraser_rx @ May 1 2005, 06:44 AM)
like clarkma5 told me when i did a stupid mistake......

i'll have to say, "i never knew arnge was that stupid"

That is an insult and i " had info that nither AMG nor M power are BMW nor MERC. standered cars which is true " " being a tuner for one company still makes u a tuner" so thank u.
idiot
QUOTE(arnge @ May 1 2005, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE(eraser_rx @ May 1 2005, 06:44 AM)
like clarkma5 told me when i did a stupid mistake......

i'll have to say, "i never knew arnge was that stupid"

That is an insult and i " had info that nither AMG nor M power are BMW nor MERC. standered cars which is true " " being a tuner for one company still makes u a tuner" so thank u.

Seriously, maybe it's because I am an idiot, but I don't understand your sentences.
moe89
but Carlsson is a different kinda tuner, they charge much much more for their services. They are similar to Hamann and Brabus.
PandaBeat
straight from the indies thread... oh wait!
arnge
My point is if u don't know me , don't try to insult me.
Cyclone
Kick its butt in what? Being ugly or having a stupid autobox tranny?
eraser_rx
QUOTE(arnge @ May 1 2005, 12:43 PM)
My point is if u don't know me , don't try to insult me.

well.......clarkma5 didn't know me either.....and he insulted me........

back on the topic......the M5 has a more agressive look than the merc......

but the merc only look good at a low angle.......
arnge
QUOTE(eraser_rx @ May 1 2005, 06:14 PM)
well.......clarkma5 didn't know me either.....and he insulted me........

back on the topic......the M5 has a more agressive look than the merc......

but the merc only look good at a low angle.......

Well clarkma5 can do what ever he wants and u too can accept or not " in my case i don't accept it " back to the points , i never talked about the looks , i am talking refinment , quality , ride , performance , luxury " autobox is still luxurly "at the same time , i am taling about the whole package.
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