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DSCOTY '09: Ultra-exotics
What is Dieselstation's favorite new ultra-exotic of the 2009 model year?
Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport [ 18 ] ** [42.86%]
Lamborghini Reventon [ 16 ] ** [38.10%]
Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series [ 6 ] ** [14.29%]
SSC Ultimate Aero [ 2 ] ** [4.76%]
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post Mar 14 2009, 06:00 PM
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For more on the DieselStation Car of the Year '09 competition, please see this thread.

Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport
Base MSRP:
$2,250,000 (estimated)
Available Engines: 8.0 liter DOHC quad-turbocharged 64-valve W16 with 1001 HP and 922 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 7-speed dual clutch transmission
Available Drivetrains: All-wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 8 City/14 Highway (for standard model)
Curb Weight: 4387 lbs.







Lamborghini Reventon
Base MSRP:
$1,500,000 (approximate)
Available Engines: 6.5 liter DOHC 48-valve V12 with 650 HP and 487 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed sequential manual gearbox
Available Drivetrains: All-wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 9 City/14 Highway
Curb Weight: 3671 lbs.







Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series
Base MSRP:
$299,000
Available Engines: 6.0 liter SOHC twin-turbocharged 36-valve V12 with 661 HP and 738 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shift capabilities
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive with limited slip differential
EPA Fuel Economy: 11 City/18 Highway (for non-Black SL65 AMG model)
Curb Weight: 4345 lbs.







SSC Ultimate Aero
Base MSRP:
$700,000 (estimated)
Available Engines: 6.3 liter OHV twin-turbocharged 16-valve V8 with 1287 HP and 1112 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual transmission
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 18 City/27 Highway (2008 model)
Curb Weight: 2750 lbs. (dry weight)





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post Mar 14 2009, 06:29 PM
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The Bugatti and Benz are porkers and the Aero is built is someone's garage. That leaves the Lambo to get my vote. But to drive every day, I do think the SL65 AMG BS would be really fun (being forgiving and the most practical), plus that widebody is incredibly badass.
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:16 PM
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The Mercedes can't run with the big dogs, so it's out for me. The Reventon is not a big enough improvement over the base Murcielago to justify that epic price increase, even if there are only 20.

Now for the fun part. The minute I saw the choices I already had a clear winner.

I hate the Ultimate Aero TT. It is the coldest, least inspired hypercar ever created. It is a pinnacle example of the "because we can" mentality. They say the new one is geared for 282 miles per hour, but can they confirm that? Nope, shot in the dark. It is nothing more than an overpowered project car with little attention paid to any detail. Yeah, brute force works, but engineering excellence cannot be overruled by anything.

Veyron. This version's image is going to get ripped to shreds by celebrities and the like because it's a convertible, but I don't care. More than 220 without the top on, and still maintaining complete structural rigidity? Kudos Bugatti. That thing kicks ass. thumbs_up.gif
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:17 PM
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I've seen the Reventon and Veyron in person.

Reventon = Sex
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:18 PM
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The Merc, because it's the scariest-looking Merc ever and it can alter the rotation of the earth with its rear wheels. EDIT: I just realized it's actually the second-weakest car here torque-wise, but still, I just like it the most.

The Reventon slightly annoys me because it's not that special mechanically. It's just a tweaked and better-looking Murcielago, right? Yet it costs 3-4 times as much?
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post Mar 14 2009, 07:26 PM
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The SL65's cool but I still don't think Mercedes quite has it. I agree 100% with the SSC Aero project car comments above, and the Reventon is rightly noted as being an overpriced styling exercise over an LP640. It really has to be the Veyron.
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post Mar 14 2009, 08:05 PM
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Bugatti, its power and refinement are on an whole level above the rest
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post Mar 14 2009, 09:50 PM
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^But it weighs as much as a herd of elephants!!!
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post Mar 14 2009, 11:11 PM
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Look at the weight of the SL!
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post Mar 14 2009, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(Razor @ Mar 15 2009, 07:16 AM) *
More than 220 without the top on, and still maintaining complete structural rigidity?


the grand sport is limited to 200mph if i remember correctly.

i went with the ssc. it reminds me of an old-school supercar in the way that it might actually kill you. it even looks like one...
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post Mar 15 2009, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(moe @ Mar 15 2009, 12:45 AM) *
the grand sport is limited to 200mph if i remember correctly.


217 I think. Not like that's slow...
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post Mar 15 2009, 05:36 AM
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The Bugatti gets my vote here, and probably will/would in many votes like this for years to come. This is for the simple reason, of what kind of an achievement the Veyron actually is. It costs the earth, fine, it weighs a f-load, fine, but look how quick it is. It manages to be hugely fast, hugely quick around a track(even with all that weight), it manages to be possibly the most epic GT ever, all at the same time. Plus there were huge design constrraints and obstacles right from the word go, but still it is one of the greatest pieces of any sort of engineering marvel built by man. A truly epic car. Plus it's actually just a V-Dub, and for that I love it biggrin.gif
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post Mar 15 2009, 06:27 AM
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Reventon,

Because the Veyron makes car-nuts go "WHOA", but the Lambo makes EVERYONE shout it.

Yes, technical exercises is hugely related to supercars, but not as much as supercars are related to impressing the general public.

I'll put it this way - I think the Reventon will get you pussy much better than the Veyron Raspberry.gif and thats how supercars should be rated.
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post Mar 15 2009, 02:43 PM
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Frankly none of these cars really does it for me.

The AMG SL Black gets the nod because it's genuinely badassed for a Merc.
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post Mar 15 2009, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(MustangAficionado @ Mar 15 2009, 02:11 AM) *
Look at the weight of the SL!


I didn't even notice that. Still gave the win to the Merc though. That thing (and the whole Black Series for that matter) are just fucking incredible.
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post Mar 15 2009, 07:07 PM
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The Veyron would be the only one you wouldn't feel like an asshat rolling up to a nice party in Monaco in, apart from the SL, but the SL is another typical merc "let's increase horsepower and keep it RWD nonsense."
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post Mar 15 2009, 07:37 PM
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The Veyron is the 2nd fastest car in the world. Thats like getting sloppy seconds. Fuck that shit.
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post Mar 15 2009, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(dukenukem @ Mar 15 2009, 11:37 PM) *
The Veyron is the 2nd fastest car in the world. Thats like getting sloppy seconds. Fuck that shit.


The first fastest car in the world has fake boobs and a butter face, and isn't as good in bed as the looks make it out to be.
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post Mar 15 2009, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(Razor @ Mar 15 2009, 07:42 PM) *
The first fastest car in the world has fake boobs and a butter face, and isn't as good in bed as the looks make it out to be.

I've said it before, more power and goes faster than the veyron with half the turbos, half the cylinders for less than half the price. And it's basically engineered in an oversized garage, and i bet they make money when they sell one unlike VW.
Not that I like the car, I just don't like the veyron at all. If it was that easy to top the Veyron, then it's not much of a car in current form.
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post Mar 15 2009, 10:14 PM
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Depends how you define "tops". In terms of numbers, yes, the SSC tops the Veyron in basically every category. Outside of that I don't think it does at all.
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