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DSCOTY '09: Sports Cars over $65k
What is Dieselstation's favorite new sports car over $65k of the 2009 model year?
Aston Martin V8 Vantage Coupe/Roadster [ 4 ] ** [8.70%]
Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 [ 19 ] ** [41.30%]
Nissan GT-R [ 16 ] ** [34.78%]
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe [ 6 ] ** [13.04%]
Tesla Roadster [ 1 ] ** [2.17%]
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post Mar 8 2009, 12:24 AM
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For more on the DieselStation Car of the Year '09 competition, please see this thread.

Aston Martin V8 Vantage Coupe/Roadster
Base MSRP:
$119,500 (Coupe), $132,500 (Roadster)
Available Engines: 4.7 liter DOHC 32-valve V8 with 420 HP and 346 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual or 6-speed sequential manual transmission
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive with limited slip differential
EPA Fuel Economy: 12 City/19 Highway
Curb Weight: 3595-3770 lbs.







Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
Base MSRP:
$103,970
Available Engines: 6.2 liter OHV supercharged 16-valve V8 with 638 HP and 604 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual transmission
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive with limited-slip differential
EPA Fuel Economy: 14 City/20 Highway
Curb Weight: 3324 lbs.







Nissan GT-R
Base MSRP:
$76,840
Available Engines: 3.6 liter DOHC twin-turbocharged 24-valve V6 with 480 HP and 430 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed dual-clutch transmission
Available Drivetrains: All-wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 16 City/21 Highway
Curb Weight: 3836-3858 lbs.







Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe
Base MSRP:
$76,300 (Base), $87,000 (S)
Available Engines: 3.6 liter DOHC 24-valve horizontally-opposed flat-6 with 345 HP and 288 ft.-lbs. of torque, 3.8 liter DOHC 24-valve horizontally-opposed flat-6 with 385 HP and 310 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual or 7-speed dual-clutch transmission
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive (limited slip differential available) or All-wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 18 City/26 Highway (Base), 17/25 (S)
Curb Weight: 3075-3329 lbs.







Tesla Roadster
Base MSRP:
$109,000
Available Engines: 375 volt electric motor with 248 HP and 276 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: Single-speed transmission
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: N/A
Curb Weight: 2690 lbs.





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post Mar 8 2009, 02:07 AM
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z r fucking 1.
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post Mar 8 2009, 03:24 AM
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Some tough choices here. The only two I don't want to vote for are the GT-R and the Tesla...though at least the Tesla's the lightweight of the group.

I was bored with 911s for awhile...but the facelifted 997's rearend is such sex that it just draws me to it. Plus it's a little easier to swallow the $90,000 pill that is a 911 versus these others cars which cost quite a bit more.
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post Mar 8 2009, 03:28 AM
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So many great options...but for me, it came down to Godzilla and the Tesla, as they're the most unprecedented. The 911 and the Vantage are just incremental improvements to an existing model...the ZR1 is also not quite out of nowhere like the GT-R and the Tesla. And between the GT-R and the Tesla, I like the GT-R better. So there you go.
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post Mar 8 2009, 05:56 AM
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Just as the GT-R leaves clark cold, the Porsche and the Aston do the same for me, so those are out. Wait, who am I kidding? This isn't process of elimination. GT-R by a staggering margin.
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post Mar 8 2009, 09:38 AM
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Tesla wouldn't work for what I want a sports car to do, I want a sports car that I can drive for hours and hours in. Also I see it as being more of a novelty than something that is truly useful.

ZR-1 leaves me kinda cold. After a long time of ignorance I came to embrace the C6 Z06 as a wonderful example of engineering ingenuity. It feels like a car designed by passionate men in sheds and I really came to respect it, and lust over it. The ZR-1 doesn't feel like that for me...and therefore doesn't have the same magic.

The GT-R, what can I say that hasn't already been said. It is an engineering marvel, and ring times aside, I don't doubt it's performance claims. But there are several problems with it for me.
i) It does what it does because a computer takes your inputs, decides if they are indeed correct, adjusts them and then tells the car what to do. That isn't driving IMHO, its a driving simulation that motors you around while you play.
ii) Nissan released a car which was either untested, or which they knew would break under pretty common circumstances. That either negligent or criminal.
iii) Even if you do buy a GT-R good luck using it like you want to. The car's performance is restricted, unless on a Nissan approved track, and when you're done having fun with your car on a Nissan approved track you have to pay Nissan to service the car, or void your Warranty.
iv) it has a big "VOID WARRANTY" button.

So yes it's a performance bargain, but how usable is that performance? I would be very surprised if an average consumer could extract its performance potential out of it, while staying within the confines of Nissan's customer contract.

This leaves the 911 and Vantage.

Truth be told, on a purely logical standpoint, disregarding price, I would have a difficult time deciding between the two of them. But I have lusted after a Porsche since I saw my friend's dad pull up in his 1980's 911 Turbo all those years ago, and would be as happy in a bog-standard 911 C2 as I would be in any other car, regardless of price.
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post Mar 8 2009, 05:45 PM
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I had to go for the Porsche but the ZR1 was a very very close 2nd.
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post Mar 8 2009, 07:35 PM
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The Vantage is sexy, but just doesn't do it from a performance standpoint. The Carrera, just from the existence of higher models (such as the GT3 and Turbo), would leave me wanting more. The Tesla is a great toy, but not a real car. The GT-R... enough has been said about it. I've gotta go with the ZR-1. I'm a big fan of the Z06, and it seems to me that with this new model, they've improved on a lot of the Z06's problems (not to say that they haven't created a few new ones). But I don't like the chargecooler, or the tacky hood, or the chrome wheels.
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post Mar 8 2009, 08:12 PM
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Fortunately the chrome wheels on the ZR-1 are an option.
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post Mar 8 2009, 10:18 PM
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would've voted for gt-r, too heavy though. zr1
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post Mar 9 2009, 02:32 AM
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There's something so delightfully unassuming about the 911 that the other cars just don't have. It's one of the few that you could go to the grocery store and not feel terribly silly in it. The Aston is a really close second though, I've really warmed to the Vantage.
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(Frederf @ Mar 9 2009, 03:32 AM) *
There's something so delightfully unassuming about the 911 that the other cars just don't have. It's one of the few that you could go to the grocery store and not feel terribly silly in it. The Aston is a really close second though, I've really warmed to the Vantage.


I dunno, I think the ZR-1 is about the most unassuming car here. In the eyes of non-car-people, it's just another Corvette. Fast but not exotic.

And it's easier to load groceries into a Vette's hatch than it is to get them into the backseat of a 911 smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE(Mitlov @ Mar 9 2009, 07:43 AM) *
I dunno, I think the ZR-1 is about the most unassuming car here.


I think you're crazy. The ZR-1 looks pretty bonkers, not "just another Corvette". The layperson may not be able to know why it looks different, but I think they can tell.
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Mar 9 2009, 07:50 AM) *
I think you're crazy. The ZR-1 looks pretty bonkers, not "just another Corvette". The layperson may not be able to know why it looks different, but I think they can tell.


Fact: In Medford, Oregon, driving around in a new, no-options Carrera would be seen as more in-your-face conspicuous consumption than driving around in a ZR-1.

And I don't think the average layperson can tell a C6 Corvette from a C5 Corvette, not to mention differentiate different models of C6 Corvette without seeing them parked next to each other.
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post Mar 9 2009, 07:40 AM
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Understated, overstated, grand tourer, drag racer, auto-x beast, track beast .. there are only 2 car who can do all of these things effortlessly and the ZR1 does it better than anyone else.

Also, for 90% of the people, a ZR1 will just be a slightly louder corvette. No one outside of the enthusiast group going to know the difference between a Z06 and a ZR1.
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QUOTE(dukenukem @ Mar 9 2009, 11:40 AM) *
Understated, overstated, grand tourer, drag racer, auto-x beast, track beast .. there are only 2 car who can do all of these things effortlessly and the ZR1 does it better than anyone else.

Also, for 90% of the people, a ZR1 will just be a slightly louder corvette. No one outside of the enthusiast group going to know the difference between a Z06 and a ZR1.


What's the other?
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post Mar 9 2009, 07:53 AM
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I am going to say the 911.

and now i wait for the GTR fans to come in and prove me wrong.
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QUOTE(dukenukem @ Mar 9 2009, 11:53 AM) *
I am going to say the 911.

and now i wait for the GTR fans to come in and prove me wrong.


You're wrong.
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QUOTE(Razor @ Mar 9 2009, 11:02 AM) *
You're wrong.

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Who the fuck drag races a 911 Carrera?
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