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DSCOTY '08: Family Vans & Wagons
What is Dieselstation's best family van or wagon of the year?
Chrysler Town & Country/Dodge Grand Caravan [ 1 ] ** [2.70%]
Kia Rondo [ 2 ] ** [5.41%]
Saab 9-3 Sportcombi [ 16 ] ** [43.24%]
Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen [ 8 ] ** [21.62%]
Volvo V70 [ 10 ] ** [27.03%]
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post Feb 11 2008, 04:13 PM
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For more on the DieselStation Car of the Year '08 competition, please see this thread.

Chrysler Town & Country/Dodge Grand Caravan
Base MSRP:
$21,740 (Grand Caravan), $22,510 (Town & Country)
Available Engines: 3.3 liter OHV 12-valve V6 with 175 HP and 205 ft.-lbs. of torque, 3.8 liter OHV 12-valve V6 with 197 HP and 230 ft.-lbs. of torque, 4.0 liter SOHC 24-valve V6 with 253 HP and 262 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic (3.3 only) or 6-speed automatic transmission (N/A on 3.3)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 17 City/24 Highway (3.3), 16/23 (3.8 & 4.0)
Curb Weight: 4321-4621 lbs.







Kia Rondo
Base MSRP:
$16,395
Available Engines: 2.4 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 162 HP and 164 ft.-lbs. of torque, 2.7 liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 182 HP and 182 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic with manual shifting mode (2.4 only) or 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode (2.7 only)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 21 City/29 Highway (2.4), 20/27 (2.7)
Curb Weight: 3333-3511 lbs.







Saab 9-3 Sportcombi
Base MSRP:
$29,250
Available Engines: 2.0 liter turbocharged DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 210 HP and 221 ft.-lbs. of torque, 2.8 liter turbocharged DOHC 24-valve V6 with 255 HP and 258 ft.-lbs. of torque (280/295 on AWD).
Available Transmissions: 6-speed manual or 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode (2.0T only) or 6-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode (V6 only)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive or all-wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 19 City/29 Highway (2.0T 6MT), 18/24 (2.0T 5AT), 16/26 (V6 FWD 6AT), 15/24 (V6 FWD 6MT) (AWD mileage N/A)
Curb Weight: 3300-3690 lbs.







Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen
Base MSRP:
$17,500 (est.)
Available Engines: 2.5 liter DOHC 20-valve inline-5 with 170 HP and 177 ft.-lbs. of torque, 2.0 liter turbocharged direct-injection DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 200 HP and 207 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual (2.5 only), 6-speed automatic with manual shifting mode (2.5 only), 6-speed manual (2.0T only), or 6-speed dual-clutch sequential manual transmission (2.0T only)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 22 City/29 Highway (2.0T DSG), 21/29 (2.5 5MT & 6AT & 2.0T 6MT)
Curb Weight: 3250-3350 lbs. (est.)







Volvo V70
Base MSRP:
$32,465
Available Engines: 3.2 liter DOHC 24-valve inline-6 with 235 HP and 236 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic with manual shifting mode
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 16 City/24 Highway
Curb Weight: 3527 lbs.





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post Feb 11 2008, 04:18 PM
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Wow, this is really, really hard between the new V70 and the VW Sportwagen. I'm going with the V70, just because I love the redesign. That pop-up screen is kinda cool and the new rear end looks awesome.
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post Feb 11 2008, 04:54 PM
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I went with the V70, because in terms of style it beats anything here. The 9-3 comes in at a close second for me.
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post Feb 11 2008, 05:13 PM
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V70, it would have been the Jetta if the diesel was included
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post Feb 11 2008, 05:24 PM
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Diesel's pushed back to the 2009 model year it looks like.

I went with the VW because it gets good mileage in all its forms (the V70's is abysmal!) and because it's affordable and has tons of space (66.9 cubic feet is within spitting distance of our old Mazda Tribute's 70 cubic feet, and that thing was cavernous). I would've gone for the Saab but honestly the VW has a nicer interior at 2/3rds (or less) of the price.
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post Feb 11 2008, 05:34 PM
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Jetta wagen. The V70 and the Sportcombi are nice but really expensive.
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post Feb 11 2008, 05:59 PM
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I took the Saab.

It's so freaking good looking inside and out (one of the best looking cars on sale)!

Comes with AWD and a six speed manual (I really think my Impreza could use an extra cog for the highway)!

What more could you ask for?

However if my family decides to get bigger, I could see us getting a Rondo as a city car...
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post Feb 11 2008, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Feb 11 2008, 05:24 PM) *
Diesel's pushed back to the 2009 model year it looks like.

I went with the VW because it gets good mileage in all its forms (the V70's is abysmal!) and because it's affordable and has tons of space (66.9 cubic feet is within spitting distance of our old Mazda Tribute's 70 cubic feet, and that thing was cavernous). I would've gone for the Saab but honestly the VW has a nicer interior at 2/3rds (or less) of the price.

what? no diesel till 2009? WTF!!!!!!!!! angry.gif
but even without the diesel MKV wins for me, just for the fact that there is large aftermarket for the MKV already.
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post Feb 11 2008, 07:03 PM
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Well there was a huge fire at the factory that makes the new 2.0 TDI and it destroyed tens of thousands of engines, so it's been delayed.
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post Feb 11 2008, 07:05 PM
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I thought that was the 2.5L factory, hence no sport wagen til 2008...
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post Feb 11 2008, 07:46 PM
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As far as I can tell it was the TDI, or else the TDI would've been in the Sedan for 2008 and it won't be.
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post Feb 11 2008, 11:14 PM
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I voted Saab. It's one of the sexiest wagons around, and is probably the most fun to drive of this lot.
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post Feb 11 2008, 11:16 PM
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I never thought I would say this, but I vote Town&Country.
I rode in one a few weeks ago, and it's amazing. The space is ample, the ride is comfortable, the seats are comfortable and the interiors are good.
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post Feb 12 2008, 01:39 AM
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I voted for the Saab. I think it's a fine looking car and for some reason I felt more drawn to it than the others in the poll. Maybe because it is born from jets. laugh.gif
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post Feb 12 2008, 01:52 AM
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The Saab because its aesthetically pleasing.
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post Feb 12 2008, 05:13 PM
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i was at a VW dealer for some warranty work, and the salesman said April for the new TDI happy2.gif happy2.gif happy2.gif happy2.gif happy2.gif happy2.gif
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post Feb 12 2008, 05:55 PM
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No one plans on selling these new wagons in the US do they? I went for the Saab...shit that thing is crazy looking.
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post Feb 12 2008, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(Synesthesia @ Feb 12 2008, 05:55 PM) *
No one plans on selling these new wagons in the US do they? I went for the Saab...shit that thing is crazy looking.

The Jetta is coming in April
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post Feb 12 2008, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Synesthesia @ Feb 12 2008, 05:55 PM) *
No one plans on selling these new wagons in the US do they? I went for the Saab...shit that thing is crazy looking.


They're all going to be sold in the US...the Volvo and the Saab are already here. My neighbor bought a Sportcombi two years ago.
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post Feb 12 2008, 11:47 PM
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Why is there no Honda Odyssey if there is going to be Caravan. IMO Odyssey is way better, but regardless the Saab has my vote.

Edit: Scratch that, should have read the rules first.
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