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DSTOTY '07: Luxury SUVs
What is Dieselstation's best luxury SUV of the year?
Acura MDX [ 7 ] ** [16.67%]
Audi Q7 [ 17 ] ** [40.48%]
BMW X5 [ 8 ] ** [19.05%]
Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon/Yukon XL [ 7 ] ** [16.67%]
Lincoln Navigator [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Mercedes-Benz GL450 [ 3 ] ** [7.14%]
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clarkma5
post Nov 23 2006, 04:04 AM
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For more on the DieselStation Car of the Year '07 competition, please see this thread.

Acura MDX
Base MSRP:
$39,995
Available Engines: 3.7 liter SOHC 24-valve V6 with 300 HP and 275 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 5-speed automatic with manual shift mode
Available Drivetrains: Full time all wheel drive (Super Handling)
Curb Weight: 4548-4597 lbs.







Audi Q7
Base MSRP:
$39,900
Available Engines: 3.6 liter direct-injection DOHC 24-valve VR6 with 280 HP and 266 ft.-lbs. of torque, 4.2 liter direct-injection DOHC 32-valve V8 with 350 HP and 325 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode
Available Drivetrains: Full time all wheel drive
Curb Weight: 5015-5467 lbs.







BMW X5
Base MSRP:
$45,900
Available Engines: 3.0 liter DOHC 24-valve inline-6 with 260 HP and 225 ft.-lbs. of torque, 4.8 liter DOHC 32-valve V8 with 350 HP and 350 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode
Available Drivetrains: Full time all wheel drive
Curb Weight: 4982-5335 lbs.







Cadillac Escalade/GMC Yukon/Yukon XL
Base MSRP:
$53,975 (Escalade), $34,365 (Yukon), $37,485 (Yukon XL)
Available Engines: 4.8 liter OHV 16-valve V8 with 295 HP and 305 ft.-lbs. of torque (Yukon only), 5.3 liter OHV 16-valve V8 with 320 HP and 340 ft.-lbs. of torque (N/A on Escalade), 6.0 liter OHV 16-valve V8 with 350 HP and 360 ft.-lbs. of torque (Yukon XL only), 6.2 liter OHV 16-valve V8 with 380 HP and 417 ft.-lbs. of torque (403 HP on Escalade models, Denali and Escalade models only)
Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic (N/A on 6.2 liter) or 6-speed automatic transmission (6.2 only)
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive (N/A on Denali), full-time all wheel drive (Denali and Escalade only), or part-time 4 wheel drive (N/A on Escalade)
Curb Weight: 5273-6327 lbs.







Lincoln Navigator
Base MSRP:
$46,575
Available Engines: 5.4 liter SOHC 24-valve V8 with 300 HP and 365 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic transmission
Available Drivetrains: Rear wheel drive or part time 4 wheel drive
Curb Weight: 5872-6070 lbs.







Mercedes-Benz GL450
Base MSRP:
$55,675
Available Engines: 4.7 liter DOHC 32-valve V8 with 335 HP and 339 ft.-lbs. of torque
Available Transmissions: 7-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode
Available Drivetrains: Full time 4 wheel drive
Curb Weight: 5249 lbs.





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post Nov 23 2006, 04:28 AM
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The Q7, MDX, and X5 can't go off-road. So no.

They ruined the Navigator, it looks truly terrible now.

That leaves the Escalade and the GL...and the Escalade is just more special. It looks special (particularly in Pearl White), and I have no doubt it would feel special too. So Escalade, and fuck the Yukon...I'm only voting for the Escalade...not that the Yukon is bad or anything. I just love the Escalade, and I don't feel that strongly about the Yukon.

And since Clarkma is lame...here's the Escalades nicer interior.

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post Nov 23 2006, 04:33 AM
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The X5's the sexiest car here, but I have this horrible bias against the non-is V8 X5s (always have) and the 3.0 isn't enough motor for a 5000 pound SUV so I wouldn't have it.

The Yukon Denali, with its Escalade drivetrain wrapped up in the more discrete looks of the Yukon, is a genuinely good car but I could never see myself in it.

So I went with the Q7, mostly because I'm so impressed with the basic 3.6 package. If I got a Q7, it would be a base model with no options, and considering that would only set me back $40k for a luxury-branded, 7-seat SUV with that fantastic Audi interior...that's a helluva lotta Audi for the money. And that just impresses me to the point where I gotta vote for it.
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post Nov 23 2006, 06:26 AM
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Audi Q7.
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post Nov 23 2006, 09:46 AM
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I went with the Escalade because of that V8 beast, the only reason I didn't pick the Q7 was because I hate crossovers. It's just an enlarged station wagon.
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post Nov 23 2006, 12:08 PM
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This is a tough one. For me its a toss-up between the Q7, X5, and Escalade. To me, they're each unique enough that i like them for some reasons and dont like them for others, but there isnt really one of them that really stands out above the rest in my opinion. Each has their ups and downs and I'd choose them for different reasons. The Q7 would be ideal for a family, the X5 for its driving dynamics, and the Escalade just cause its completely badass. I think i'm going to have to go with the Escalade just because it is so badass and the 6.2 V8 is just as mean. Between the 3 though, it was really an eeny-meeny-miney-mo choice for me.
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post Nov 23 2006, 11:40 PM
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The lack of diesel engines really makes all these options suck.

I'll take a Yukon XL with the 6.2L and 4x4. It'd be perfect for hauling trailers, the only reason I'd buy one of these monstrosities.
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post Nov 24 2006, 12:07 AM
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The 6.2 liter models are pretty neutered in terms of utility, PBB; they lack low-range and their tow ratings are much lower.

If you want hauling capabilities, you want the 6.0 liter Yukon XL.
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post Nov 24 2006, 12:15 AM
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Ah, duly noted. If I had actually been buying one, I would have actually done some research on the engine options, of course. tongue_crossed-eyes.gif
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post Nov 25 2006, 12:06 PM
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I thought the MDX had a turbo?
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post Nov 25 2006, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(DakianDelomast @ Nov 25 2006, 12:06 PM) *
I thought the MDX had a turbo?


No, the RDX does. MDX is just a big NA V6 (Honda's largest if I'm not mistaken).
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post Nov 25 2006, 09:41 PM
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RDX, MDX, its all the same shit to me.
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:20 PM
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-Escalade/Yukon are hidious and generic outside...and what is with the Aston heat vent on the fender?
-Lincolin is hidious outside and in...square gauges look awful...and awkward
-BMW is ugly, although im sure a treat to drive
-Acura is an Acura...or a Honda with leather...styling is too slashy, and inside is too busy.

Audi Q7 is just right, restrained inside, with Audi elegance, outside has just enough uglyness, but not enough to spoil it...doesnt look like another Cayenne clone (toureg)

EDIT: any one notice how the Lincolin's steering wheel encourages you to drive with your hands at 4:00 and 8:00? Thats just plain bad erogonomics.
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:25 PM
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Looking at the interiors of these SUVs made me wonder 2 things:
1) why does GM still use a column shifter? it looks so out-dated now imo.
2) where is the shifter in the Mercedes?
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:28 PM
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on the column, like in the new 7 series.
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:32 PM
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the tiny one on the right side of the wheel? i thought that was just the wiper instrumentation
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:37 PM
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im prity sure thats the shifter...like on the 7 series, it looks like it stays in the middle for "N", you go up for "D" and down for "R".

Unless there is a button somewhere, thats the only place I can think of it being.

EDIT: after further investigation, that is exactly where the shifter is, only its up for "R" and down for "D"

It is more descrete than the gigantic handle on the GMC, but its still a column shifter...its also the same deal on the new CL and S classes.
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(leif @ Nov 26 2006, 03:20 PM) *
EDIT: any one notice how the Lincolin's steering wheel encourages you to drive with your hands at 4:00 and 8:00? Thats just plain bad erogonomics.

No, because you can clearly see the grooves at 3 and 9 o'clock.

And besides... I imagine the kind of people who buy that shithouse will drive with one hand at 12 o'clock. :/
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(leif @ Nov 26 2006, 03:37 PM) *
im prity sure thats the shifter...like on the 7 series, it looks like it stays in the middle for "N", you go up for "D" and down for "R".

Unless there is a button somewhere, thats the only place I can think of it being.

EDIT: after further investigation, that is exactly where the shifter is, only its up for "R" and down for "D"


ah gotcha, that makes sense...thanks.


QUOTE(Phix @ Nov 26 2006, 03:38 PM) *
No, because you can clearly see the grooves at 3 and 9 o'clock.

And besides... I imagine the kind of people who buy that shithouse will drive with one hand at 12 o'clock. :/

i think its main problem is that its so damn ugly nobody will want to touch it anywhere :\
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(Phix @ Nov 26 2006, 02:38 PM) *
No, because you can clearly see the grooves at 3 and 9 o'clock.

And besides... I imagine the kind of people who buy that shithouse will drive with one hand at 12 o'clock. :/


Look at the Lincolin and the GM, to use the wheel mounted controls you have to put your hands at 4 and 8, where in the Japanise and European cars you can keep your hands at 3 and 9. its probaly donr this way so that the wheel mounted controls can be added and removed cheaply from the Lincolin and the GM, while keeping the original wheel.
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