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Posted by: spphoto.dk Nov 9 2008, 04:04 PM

I don't know if it was stolen or whatever it was. But I know that I like to be informed if my pics are seen around the net.


http://sdseries.eu/da/for-the-drivers

Posted by: porsche944 Nov 9 2008, 06:31 PM

or tell em to paypal you 50$

Posted by: Synesthesia Nov 9 2008, 07:30 PM

QUOTE(porsche944 @ Nov 9 2008, 09:31 PM) *
or tell em to paypal you 50$


Surely you're not serious... tard.gif

Posted by: porsche944 Nov 9 2008, 07:35 PM

QUOTE(Synesthesia @ Nov 10 2008, 12:30 AM) *
Surely you're not serious... tard.gif

paypal me 50$

Posted by: 911xx Nov 9 2008, 08:47 PM

lol

Posted by: dphan Nov 9 2008, 09:01 PM

get em coach!

Posted by: spphoto.dk Nov 10 2008, 03:48 AM

QUOTE(porsche944 @ Nov 10 2008, 04:31 AM) *
or tell em to paypal you 50$



More like 51$!!!!!!!! That'd be wicked crazy yo.

Posted by: Performance Imagery Nov 10 2008, 05:25 AM

I think I'm going to go get my law degree and work for Easton. I'll never be out of a job then!

Get'em man!!

Wow, then even took the time to alter the photo with flashy lights!

Posted by: Brennan McKissick Nov 10 2008, 11:07 AM

I wish I was good enough to have my stuff stolen lol

Posted by: goota Nov 10 2008, 12:35 PM

QUOTE(porsche944 @ Nov 9 2008, 07:31 PM) *
or tell em to paypal you 50$

more like $50000, there's interest yo.

Posted by: varro Nov 10 2008, 01:17 PM

What ? Is it nonlegal to use someones picture without permission ? bitchfight.gif shoot.gif head.gif die.gif
I fawking hate those thieves

Posted by: The Freak Nov 10 2008, 01:31 PM

QUOTE(Brennan McKissick @ Nov 10 2008, 11:07 AM) *
I wish I was good enough to have my stuff stolen lol


ahaha word laugh.gif

Posted by: JC_PHOTGRAPHY Nov 11 2008, 06:19 PM

MAYBE WE NEED A TOPIC JUST FOR REPORTING STOLEN WORK WE FIND

Posted by: DB9 Nov 11 2008, 07:17 PM

It would all be filled with easton's work. But that's actually not a bad idea, I'd support it.

Posted by: Easton Nov 11 2008, 09:53 PM

Yeah - that is a good idea. But the idea of reporting is to bring it to the attention of those infringed. And not every photographer will necessarily check the thread regularly.

What do others think? Shall we make a new sticky thread for this purpose?

Posted by: ScottChu Nov 11 2008, 10:41 PM

I would definitely keep an eye out for DS photog material for the thread.

Posted by: wilch Nov 12 2008, 02:28 PM

QUOTE(Easton @ Nov 12 2008, 04:53 PM) *
Yeah - that is a good idea. But the idea of reporting is to bring it to the attention of those infringed. And not every photographer will necessarily check the thread regularly.

What do others think? Shall we make a new sticky thread for this purpose?



I think it's a good idea.

Posted by: Dejan Sokolovski Nov 12 2008, 07:13 PM

It's a good idea yeah, make a sticky for that... =)

Posted by: Tifun Nov 12 2008, 07:19 PM

I'm new and suck as a photographer, but the few things I have had featured I take a lot of pride in. I vote sticky.

Posted by: The Freak Nov 12 2008, 07:22 PM

QUOTE(Dejan Sokolovski @ Nov 12 2008, 07:13 PM) *
It's a good idea yeah, make a sticky for that... =)


x123

Posted by: andywee Nov 17 2008, 09:21 AM

well turn it into a good deal. it can be a win-win situation. I managed to turn a manufacturer that stole my image and we talked and i ended up doing their worldwide ad campaign. I cant reveal who until the NDA expires. once i get my payment, I'm gonna build myself a dry carbon fibre rig.

Posted by: MartijnGizmo Nov 17 2008, 09:45 AM

Ah, that's gotta be the Italian guys, nice work Andy! smile.gif

This can help to find back your pics: http://tineye.com

Posted by: Brennan McKissick Nov 17 2008, 11:21 AM

thats pretty cool, I vote sticky as well

Posted by: porsche944 Nov 17 2008, 03:57 PM

How often does this actually come up?

Posted by: DB9 Nov 17 2008, 04:00 PM

QUOTE(andywee @ Nov 17 2008, 11:21 AM) *
well turn it into a good deal. it can be a win-win situation. I managed to turn a manufacturer that stole my image and we talked and i ended up doing their worldwide ad campaign. I cant reveal who until the NDA expires. once i get my payment, I'm gonna build myself a dry carbon fibre rig.


I'm gonna say either Pagani, because i remember they had something of yours recently. Or VW because you just did an ad for them i remember.

Posted by: andywee Nov 17 2008, 05:28 PM

QUOTE(DB9 @ Nov 18 2008, 08:00 AM) *
I'm gonna say either Pagani, because i remember they had something of yours recently. Or VW because you just did an ad for them i remember.


nah, I'm only doing regional work for VW. have been shooting for them every month.

i wont say who. zipped. wink.gif I'll show the pics once I am able to show them. all i can say is agency stuff is unbelievably stressful. I'm given only 1 day per image to finish the retouching.



as for stealing images. once they approve and implement orphan works, they have the right to use it. the only way to protect ourselves now is to add in watermarks. and start getting fingers into commercial ligitation.

Posted by: spphoto.dk Nov 17 2008, 07:58 PM

Yeah sticky this. I'll rename the topic if I can.

Posted by: Easton Nov 17 2008, 08:32 PM

STICKIED!

Wow - first time I used my mod powers in years tongue.gif

Posted by: clarkma5 Nov 17 2008, 08:56 PM

Here's another one for you Easton...from a video game called "Racer":



http://www.racer.nl/

Posted by: The Freak Nov 21 2008, 07:38 PM

^loll good one !!
so much of easton's stuff all over the internet ...

Posted by: Tifun Nov 27 2008, 07:27 AM

QUOTE(MartijnGizmo @ Nov 17 2008, 09:45 AM) *
Ah, that's gotta be the Italian guys, nice work Andy! smile.gif

This can help to find back your pics: http://tineye.com


I tried that page......it doesn't find anything of the pics I've posted on forums. I think they need to work out some bugs. Great concept though.

Posted by: moethepaki Dec 1 2008, 01:41 AM

Hey Easton, I just bought some posters of your work from the local CarreFour. It was the Shelby GT500, they also had the NSX-R and the 300C available. The publisher on the bottom is www.gbeye.com...are they legit?

EDIT: I just hit up their site, apparently they are.

Posted by: Davidsen Dec 7 2008, 09:15 AM

Easton check this out:
http://www.sturupraceway.com/business/RaceDine.aspx

Posted by: Davidsen Dec 8 2008, 07:05 AM

QUOTE(Easton @ Dec 8 2008, 01:53 AM) *
oh wait - i don't think that last ones mine biggrin.gif


After a closer look I think you're right Easton: The needle on your photo is about 8000 rpm, and on the “stolen” picture it's only about 7200. The angle is slightly different as well.
Even though, it looks a lot like your work. Or maybe a little worse tongue.gif

Posted by: Blue Devil Dec 16 2008, 12:28 PM

I think everyone here will find this very useful...

http://tineye.com

give it a try... they just started but it looks very promising ...

Posted by: DB9 Dec 16 2008, 03:36 PM

QUOTE(MartijnGizmo @ Nov 17 2008, 11:45 AM) *
Ah, that's gotta be the Italian guys, nice work Andy! smile.gif

This can help to find back your pics: http://tineye.com



QUOTE(Blue Devil @ Dec 16 2008, 02:28 PM) *
I think everyone here will find this very useful...

http://tineye.com

give it a try... they just started but it looks very promising ...


DS2_Rep0st_Cop2.gif

Still cool though tongue.gif

Posted by: pterps Dec 19 2008, 02:11 PM

I have seen a lot of pictures on websites in this topic, but what to do if one of your pics has been used on a television programm?

A dutch programm used one of my pictures last monday in a show on tv. It was for a topic about the Maybach Landaulette.

I have send them a mail and asked them to come with a proposal to solve the problem.


Posted by: nismo Dec 19 2008, 02:50 PM

Fuck thieves.

Posted by: slauk Dec 19 2008, 03:26 PM

Isn't this Eastons photo, just a little modified?


Link: http://shop.club-honda.org/product_info.php?products_id=134&osCsid=6c24a6592935800b1b2a039fb0f3334a

Posted by: Easton Dec 19 2008, 06:47 PM

bah

Posted by: spphoto.dk Dec 20 2008, 02:10 AM

QUOTE(Easton @ Dec 20 2008, 03:47 AM) *
bah



Hahahaha - The backside of being a world famous car photographer. I bet you can't even do shit about 75% of the cases, amirite?

Posted by: andywee Dec 20 2008, 11:15 AM

QUOTE(spphoto.dk @ Dec 20 2008, 06:10 PM) *
Hahahaha - The backside of being a world famous car photographer. I bet you can't even do shit about 75% of the cases, amirite?


actually you are wrong. the more famous you are, the higher price you can get out of the whole ordeal. the biggest problem with these cases is the photograher usually has to come up with the legal fees first. and hoping that at the end of the deal, you get more than what it costs you to start the commerical legitation. if i am not wrong, it cost AU$20k to start for australia. each country has got a different set of fees. for australia, the $20k that we(photographers) pay cannot claim back from the other side. so the whole ordeal, if it doesnt drag too long, can cost up to $50k. so the image has to worst at least $50k.


in australia it cost au$20k.
in singapore it costs $5k but the ceiling limit that we can claim is only $20k per image. but if the plaintiff is not in singapore then it becomes a different issue.

most of the time, online web cases are US/worldwide issues. eg server is in 1 country, plaintiff is in another country.
if i recall the limit for UK is $120k GBP per image
US is $200k USD per image.

being famous is not something someone say. but based on how many companies look at it..
eg, Easton by far is more famous than me in everyone's eyes. but because I have nikon worldwide recognition, I can claim more than 2x when compared to Easton.
having won international competitions and getting sponsored are multipliers to the 'famous' quota.
the famous factor in otherwords must be a physical evidence and not just a hearsay.


My situation is very different. I have good terms with my lawyer. so I persue each and every case that comes to my knowledge. most of my cases so far are settled 'out of court'. I guess in the industry word has gotten out that I am quite agressive in such issues that many have taken me very seriously. partial such issues is to keep the money rolling. eg, the money won from such cases are used to roll for the next case. all it takes is to just get the first case started and stick to it to the end.

Posted by: andywee Dec 20 2008, 11:39 AM

QUOTE(pterps @ Dec 20 2008, 06:11 AM) *
I have seen a lot of pictures on websites in this topic, but what to do if one of your pics has been used on a television programm?

A dutch programm used one of my pictures last monday in a show on tv. It was for a topic about the Maybach Landaulette.

I have send them a mail and asked them to come with a proposal to solve the problem.


I have mentioned this before..
dont ask them for a solution..

start by sending them email/contacting them, telling them that you are very happy that they found your image good enough to use. and you would be delighted to send them more images if they need so. meantime, tell them that usual cases, you would be charging them licensing fee and statuatory damages. but you are willing to understand their oversight of using your image(s) without your permission.

tell them what you normally charge. and send them your regular licensing invoice. then tell them that if they found your other images good enough for them to use also, tell them you are willing to offer some discount in licensing fee for the other images they intend to use.


i hope this help. I'm glad this is stickied. kinda tired of repeating this over and over again.




as for licensing fee, there are a few factors that contribute to the total figure.
1) what medium is it used for, eg billboards, newsprint, magazines, etc
2) how many copies
3) size of print
4) how many countries
5) I remember there is a fifth. but cant put my finger to it. when i remember i'll fill this up again. <g> yeah I'm getting old.

how the formula works

MEDIUM: magazines=1, etc etc, if medium is mag & newspaper, MEDIUM=2
COPIES: if the mag printed 20k and newspaper = 100k then COPIES=120k divided by X. (x=something that you decided.)
SIZE: full page for mag and 1/2 page for newsprint, then SIZE= 1.5
COUNTRIES USED. mag=6 countries, newsprint=1 then COUNTRIES=6 (whichever is higher)

MEDIUM * COPIES/X * SIZE * COUNTRIES = licensing fee.

if anyone has a more accurate formula feel free to correct me.

Posted by: The Freak Jan 1 2009, 08:10 PM

http://www.jdmautodepot.com/engines.php

Posted by: Easton Jan 1 2009, 08:51 PM

bah

Posted by: George Manont Jan 21 2009, 06:25 PM

Hi,

My 2 cents ;


1. If it is for commercial use, just give 'em a lite warning. Meanwhile you have to gauge the actions, cost and benefits !


2. If it is NOT for commercial use, why don't you feel proud that your work is adored by cyber people.


This is a matter of thinking. You can sue 'em but the judge would NOT treate this type as a priority.


Peace.

Posted by: wooter Feb 13 2009, 09:42 AM

http://www.speedwear.be/index1.html ...

Posted by: Benny Feb 13 2009, 09:54 AM

Easton Chang: world renowned for illegal use of his images

Posted by: Costas Feb 20 2009, 08:36 AM

So uhh.. one of my clients that I had done a shoot for said one of his pics got used in Nissan Sport Magazine as seen here:



It's the white Z under 1990-1996 category. Should I bother doing anything about this? They didn't contact me or offer any type of compensation for using my photo.. hMMMMMMMMMM. I wonder if anyone here knows the photographers of any of the other photo's on there, and if they even know their photo got used.

edit: just got this email from the car owner

QUOTE
i got another email from them...he said that my car and pics are
likely to make a one page feature, but prob not till later in the
year...which is okay, cause i'm doing a complete chrome engine bay
project right now and i'll be able to submit pics of that as
well....you'll hear from me again

Posted by: JustinCesler Feb 20 2009, 06:26 PM

Costas,

Reading that last email actually hurts my brain. I feel for you.....wow, that is amazing.

Posted by: Seethegrim Mar 1 2009, 02:21 PM

I have a question.

I did a shoot for a private client about a month ago. Then a couple days ago I see one of the shots I did on that shoot being used as a magazine cover. Its some small local mag that. They also then ran the rest of the images inside the mag as a "feature" article. They gave me this tiny ass credit byline. BUT, I would have never even known about it if I didn't happen to read someones status on Facebook about this car they saw on a mag cover which I then just happened to check out.

Whats the deal on that. I emailed the editor with a polite: WTF, you didn't even let me know you were using my images. No reply as yet. Because the images were from a private shoot, am I allowed to get a bit uptight about this?

Posted by: andywee Mar 1 2009, 04:45 PM

"am I allowed to get a bit uptight about this? " absolutely.

i have mentioned this before.. just email them and THANK THEM for using the image and attach a invoice with the email. tell them that payment greater than 30 days consititues copyright infringement and you would instruct your lawyer to issue a cease and decease letter. for the fact that they have used your images for COMMERCIAL reasons means you can sue them.

Posted by: DrDevil87 Mar 1 2009, 06:25 PM

Jump on it
Get yur money

Posted by: Mike Boldt Mar 1 2009, 07:57 PM

Last March I had a mag use a full page of my photos, it was a bunch of shitty club shots, but I was still told I'd be contacted for permissions for the images, never was, and was told they weren't using them... Then they end up in national the mag... I never talked to the magazine directly, I was shooting with their former photographer who was passing the gig over to me... He sent them the images to see if I was what they were looking for, then he told me they weren't going to use me because I didn't get them a big enough variety in the time needed, so I assumed they wouldn't be used...

I emailed them, sent them an invoice accordingly, they just replied with "our photographer told us that you said we could use them"

Would it be worth going after? I already contacted a lawyer, he said the photographer he said / she said shit may cause a problem, but when it comes down to it, THE MAG, never directly contacted ME, and I never granted permission for them to be published...

Posted by: andywee Mar 1 2009, 09:34 PM

the key is there is no written agreement.
I'm already doing what i can for my region. sueing every single client that think they can run away with it.

Posted by: Mike Boldt Mar 1 2009, 10:18 PM

I'm just wondering if it'd be worth it and if I stand a chance.

I'm in Canada too, so I guess it's probably a bit different from anywhere else... but probably along the same lines.

Posted by: DrDevil87 Mar 3 2009, 06:02 PM

You should
period

Posted by: OHirtenfelder Mar 5 2009, 12:09 AM

Hey Seagram,
I'm not sure on the exact details, but I remember hearing over and over, how much SA photographers struggle with copyright infringement. And that most of the time, the other fuckers get away with it.
Yesterday I needed a quote for a model for some shoot, and the quote was R 11 900, for a half day, but the pricey part of it was the useage. That's the wave I think you should ride. Make some money(or at least make them pay) from your useage.
BTW. what mag is it?

Posted by: Seethegrim Mar 12 2009, 01:44 AM

QUOTE(OHirtenfelder @ Mar 5 2009, 10:09 AM) *
Hey Seagram,
I'm not sure on the exact details, but I remember hearing over and over, how much SA photographers struggle with copyright infringement. And that most of the time, the other fuckers get away with it.
Yesterday I needed a quote for a model for some shoot, and the quote was R 11 900, for a half day, but the pricey part of it was the useage. That's the wave I think you should ride. Make some money(or at least make them pay) from your useage.
BTW. what mag is it?


I've been doing some serious reading up on Copyright Laws for SA & man, its a fking joke! SA is the ONLY country that (by law) you lose all copyrights if the job is commissioned. Yes, if someone pays you to shoot xyz, they own it thereafter! The ONLY way to get around it is if you put a legal clause into your quotes (which I've done immediately) which specifies that copyright remains with me (or any SA photographer) after the shoot is done. This quote then HAS to be legally signed thus confirming the T&C and Copyright I've specified. I've also put a usage clause & fee into all my stuff now.

Gawd, I have been taken for a bloody ride for too long. That goes for any photographer in SA who isn't aware of the little 'catch' in the copyright laws. head.gif

Oh, as for that magazine, I can't find them anywhere. Fly by night deluxe...

Posted by: Mr.B Mar 12 2009, 02:10 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/11/shelby-okays-production-of-continuation-cars-for-former-unique/

Isn't the main photo in this one of Easton's?

Posted by: OHirtenfelder Mar 12 2009, 02:49 AM

Here is a photo I saw on the back of a local(SA) mag. No captions, no names, nothing. I vaguely remember seeing it on the forums, but I don't know who's it is...if anyone's?


Posted by: DrDevil87 Mar 13 2009, 09:23 PM

Yeah I saw that on the forums too

Posted by: Clockwork Mar 13 2009, 09:41 PM

It looks like something by 360photographer


edit: it appears it was JoeyRedmond here: http://forums.dieselstation.com/index.php?showtopic=26712&hl=green+porsche

Posted by: Jeff231 Mar 27 2009, 04:06 PM

HRE used 2 of my photoshoots in their gallery. 14 photos total. The photos of the m3 and 997tt.






Posted by: boostedrobbo Mar 27 2009, 05:23 PM

QUOTE(Jeff231 @ Mar 27 2009, 08:06 PM) *
HRE used 2 of my photoshoots in their gallery. 14 photos total. The photos of the m3 and 997tt.


Their using Scott Chu shots also.

The RS4 and the GT2 are both his.

Posted by: The Freak Mar 27 2009, 05:33 PM

damm sue them !

Posted by: andywee Mar 27 2009, 08:34 PM

do a screen shot of the website of all your images and save them.


send them an email like this. ( change the figures according to what you want)

Dear Sirs,
Thank you for using my images on your HRE website. I am happy that you liked the images and are willing to use images.

However, those images are my heart and sweat, and under the berne convention, the images belongs to the creator the moment the images are created.

I understand it might be an oversight on your part for using my copyright protected images without asking.

attached is an invoice of USD$2,000 of what I normally charge.

Normally i would also license only 1 year per basis. but in this situation, I am extend the license for another year free of charge.

Do let me know if you would like to see more images from my potrfolio that might interest you.

if you have any questions, I can be contacted at XXXXXXXX (mobile number)


Yours Truly
xxxxxx

Posted by: Marien Mar 28 2009, 06:36 AM

QUOTE(andywee @ Mar 28 2009, 05:34 AM) *
do a screen shot of the website of all your images and save them.
send them an email like this. ( change the figures according to what you want)

Dear Sirs,
[...]

attached is an invoice of USD$2,000 of what I normally charge.
[...]

Yours Truly
xxxxxx


That's a really nice way of saying "pay up, sucker!" laugh.gif

Posted by: Seethegrim Mar 29 2009, 08:41 AM

QUOTE(andywee @ Mar 28 2009, 06:34 AM) *
Dear Sirs,
Thank you for using my images on your HRE website. I am happy that you liked the images and are willing to use images.

However, those images are my heart and sweat, and under the berne convention, the images belongs to the creator the moment the images are created.

I understand it might be an oversight on your part for using my copyright protected images without asking.

attached is an invoice of USD$2,000 of what I normally charge.

Normally i would also license only 1 year per basis. but in this situation, I am extend the license for another year free of charge.

Do let me know if you would like to see more images from my potrfolio that might interest you.

if you have any questions, I can be contacted at XXXXXXXX (mobile number)
Yours Truly
xxxxxx


Copy, Pasted, Saved.

Posted by: The Freak Mar 30 2009, 03:52 PM

^loll aha

Posted by: andywee Mar 31 2009, 08:03 AM

laugh.gif


there are some errors in the letter

I am extend the license for another year free of charge.
-> I am also willing to extend the 2nd year licensing to you free of charge as a gesture of goodwill.

that would sound alot better.




However, those images are my heart and sweat
-> However, those images are made with my heart, sweat and soul. And under then berne .........


*trying hard to remember what i wrote to Pagani Zonda. laugh.gif



am glad that your guys found it useful.

the key what i left out in this is, you need to know how much your image worth. consider using getty or corbis as a benchmark for how much your image worth.

Posted by: shirakiphoto Apr 8 2009, 05:50 PM

http://www.advancespeedshop.com/buddy-club-racing-spec-seat-rail-9401-acura-integra-pn-rsbsrdc2-p-9244.html Pretty sure I remember seeing you post the originals on DS. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted by: OHirtenfelder Apr 10 2009, 01:06 AM

Another one of Easton's. I'm really feeling sorry for him, the whole internet seems to be stealing his images.

Posted by: DB9 Apr 10 2009, 06:49 AM

QUOTE(OHirtenfelder @ Apr 10 2009, 04:06 AM) *
Another one of Easton's. I'm really feeling sorry for him, the whole internet seems to be stealing his images.


Seriously. It's getting to the point where you're like in the minority if you don't steal an image from him.

sad.gif

Posted by: Dejan Sokolovski Apr 11 2009, 02:54 AM

Well you know you're really good when everyone steal/use your photos, but thats a really bad of showing you like the persons photos... :/

Posted by: Webb Apr 19 2009, 05:38 PM

WOW. I've seen my work ripped before, but this is just staggering.

http://www.123photography.nl/Index.html

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Every photograph is mine. What do you all think? Cease and desist? Lawsuit threatening? Involve the KGB? Discuss.

Posted by: brasher Apr 19 2009, 08:57 PM

rape and spit.

Posted by: Marien Apr 19 2009, 10:35 PM

I see that he is Dutch. We might be a bit open minded on some issues, but this is also in the Netherlands not allowed. smile.gif

Get him!

Posted by: SwissWhiskey Apr 19 2009, 10:52 PM

Navy SEALs...

Get a lawyer to scare the crap out of him, or talk to one for advice. Don't start sending emails before you get good advice IMO. Set off on the wrong foot and it will be even harder.

Sam,

Posted by: Diesel Apr 19 2009, 10:59 PM

QUOTE(Webb @ Apr 19 2009, 06:38 PM) *
WOW. I've seen my work ripped before, but this is just staggering.

http://www.123photography.nl/Index.html

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Every photograph is mine. What do you all think? Cease and desist? Lawsuit threatening? Involve the KGB? Discuss.


woww.. how the hell do they claim to be photographers if ALL their images are stolen. sheesh!!

Posted by: Seethegrim Apr 20 2009, 12:46 AM

Daaaaaamn. I wonder what happens when this fraudster actually gets a job & then can't deliver.

Posted by: Easton Apr 20 2009, 04:28 AM

I'm stunned

Posted by: andywee Apr 20 2009, 04:29 AM

i would love to have someone steal my images on that scale. I would strip them of their houses.

Posted by: Mr.D Apr 20 2009, 08:56 AM

QUOTE(Seethegrim @ Apr 20 2009, 10:46 AM) *
Daaaaaamn. I wonder what happens when this fraudster actually gets a job & then can't deliver.

Maybe he takes the cars aswell ohdear.gif

Posted by: Dejan Sokolovski Apr 20 2009, 03:01 PM

haha yeah it must feel great to be living in someone else's talent! biggrin.gif

that guy needs some applaues.

Posted by: Webb Apr 21 2009, 09:20 AM

ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME?? This douche has ANOTHER website ripping my work:

http://www.exclusieve-fotografie.nl

I found out about both of these sites via an email from a very friendly photographer from the Netherlands, who also linked me to a whois entry regarding the second website. So now I have the ripper's address.

http://whois.domaintools.com/exclusieve-fotografie.nl

:edit: And here's the whois for the first website: http://whois.domaintools.com/123photography.nl

Also, as it just so happens, roughly 40% of my immediate and extended family are attorneys, so I will be involving one of their lawfirms into this, since it's clearly not an isolated incident with this d-bag.

emot-fuckoff.gif

Posted by: boostedrobbo Apr 21 2009, 09:28 AM

thats insane.

Posted by: DrDevil87 Apr 21 2009, 06:37 PM

Webb, Please, keep us updated on this.
And
Please
Please
Rape this fucker.

Good Luck!

Posted by: SwissWhiskey Apr 22 2009, 08:13 AM

Keep us updated, and best of luck, we want to see some live rape... biggrin.gif

Posted by: DB9 Apr 22 2009, 06:41 PM

QUOTE(andywee @ Apr 20 2009, 07:29 AM) *
i would love to have someone steal my images on that scale. I would strip them of their houses.


Ahaha, i seriously lol'ed. I would love to see that.

Posted by: Costas May 30 2009, 09:29 AM

damn the worst is when they use them for profit purposes like this guy did with my pics

edit: they're removed now woot.

Posted by: MustangAficionado May 30 2009, 10:21 AM

What makes me laugh is he's probably reading this as he likely is looking for more of your pics, ahahha

Posted by: Krestov Jun 1 2009, 01:44 PM

Look Easton. this is preview of drift on russian auto-photo-website forum. I try to find principal place of accommodation banner

this ad banner spaced at different forums

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ytra/3560177334/
http://www.radikal.ru

Posted by: mitch_f1 Jun 16 2009, 05:20 PM

Not sure if Easton knows, but they nicked most of his best shots for their page: http://www.nengun.com/

Posted by: richard.thompson Jul 19 2009, 10:09 AM

holy crap, that last one sucks big time. they ripped quite a bit.

I've had some things stolen piecemeal on the internet, I found some australian car dealerships using my photos. the weird thing is, they sold mostly volvos+vw, and they were using my ferrari photos. In print is a different story, I have been hosed on that so many times. ugh. Even caught a major monthly Ferrari publication using my photos IN ADVERTISING with no consent, or even my name.

Posted by: andywee Jul 19 2009, 08:09 PM

i guess nothing still beats pagani zonda stealing my images.


Posted by: infinity Jul 20 2009, 09:30 AM

I can't wait for the day when some "photographer" joins DS and starts posting pics that one of our current members took.

Posted by: mitch_f1 Jul 21 2009, 01:19 AM

QUOTE(Easton @ Jul 20 2009, 03:26 PM) *
No - these are actually lovely and polite paying customers biggrin.gif


That's supurb. Do they give you a nice little discount on parts?

Posted by: richard.thompson Jul 21 2009, 07:28 AM

wha da fa????

look at this, someone is selling my photo as a 20x30 giclee print!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Canvas-Print-30x20-Ferrari-Enzo-1_W0QQitemZ380074162436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Art_CanvasGiclee_RL?hash=item587e2f7904&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|293%3A1|294%3A30

I went through their gallery and it looks like they stole the majority of the photos. I suggest you guys go through there and see if you recognize any others. I tipped off ebay to this and mentioned they may have stolen a lot of the other material there (which appears to be manufacturer stuff) so it may (hopefully!) vanish mysteriously.

Posted by: andywee Jul 21 2009, 08:47 AM

aww shucks they dont have my images, else i'll buy one of my own images and send them my invoice.

Posted by: John Potts Jul 21 2009, 02:06 PM

I found this on another forum

Posted by: SwissWhiskey Jul 21 2009, 02:16 PM

^ wtf...

Some people just really don't get it.

Posted by: mitch_f1 Jul 21 2009, 11:17 PM


Posted by: OHirtenfelder Jul 22 2009, 12:09 AM

My Fuck. I almost want to go find that guy just so I can punch him as hard as I can in the face. 'Please put them back right away'. What a dickfuck!

Posted by: //deanphoto Jul 22 2009, 02:49 AM

QUOTE(John Potts @ Jul 21 2009, 03:06 PM) *
I found this on another forum


I'm speechless! head.gif

Posted by: spphoto.dk Jul 22 2009, 05:25 AM

QUOTE(John Potts @ Jul 22 2009, 12:06 AM) *
I found this on another forum



holy fucking shit. that's really incomprehensible to me. cannot compute!!

Posted by: SonicZoom Jul 22 2009, 11:47 AM

QUOTE(John Potts @ Jul 21 2009, 03:06 PM) *
I found this on another forum


this simply cannot be real tard.gif

Posted by: John Potts Jul 22 2009, 02:40 PM

heres more info on the email along with a response
http://www.shapelessmass.com/index.html/?p=578

Posted by: Seethegrim Jul 22 2009, 11:34 PM

epic fail. admitting to stealing. complaining about the inconvenience caused due to stealing. demanding to steal more. huh.gif

Posted by: NVphotoman Jul 27 2009, 09:14 PM

QUOTE(andywee @ Mar 31 2009, 09:03 AM) *
laugh.gif
*trying hard to remember what i wrote to Pagani Zonda. laugh.gif


did you ever get anything from them?

Has anyone got any money from anyone for stealing your pics?

Cause I had a photo that had my watermark PS'ed out and there watermark over it... this happen a year ago and I have not seen the photo since I told them to delete is ASAP.

Posted by: andywee Jul 27 2009, 09:26 PM

yeah i did get something from them, but not at liberty to reveal. it's definately not a car from them.

Posted by: NVphotoman Jul 28 2009, 06:23 PM

cause if that was the case I'm sure we all would know lol

good for you tho. smile.gif

Posted by: SonicZoom Jul 29 2009, 08:18 PM

Is this a new one?
Easton's work is pretty popular :-P
http://www.advancespeedshop.com/

Posted by: ZondaC12 Jul 30 2009, 10:49 AM

QUOTE(andywee @ Jul 28 2009, 07:26 AM) *
yeah i did get something from them, but not at liberty to reveal. it's definately not a car from them.

Will you be doing the shots for their next awesome car, the C9 ?? DS_Naughty2.gif That would be supercool Raspberry.gif

Posted by: richard.thompson Aug 3 2009, 07:07 PM

another ebay bum hocking my work. sigh.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ferrari-Enzo-supercar-A2-poster-picture-print_W0QQitemZ230361719139QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET?hash=item35a2a0e163&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Posted by: The Freak Aug 4 2009, 07:16 AM

^how did he get the high-res ?

Posted by: //deanphoto Aug 6 2009, 11:14 AM

Can anybody read Russian?

http://www.autowp.ru/picture/272268

It's one thing stealing an image, another to put their own watermark on but of all the images they could have stolen, they chose that one? cran.gif

Posted by: Mr.D Aug 6 2009, 12:26 PM

QUOTE(//deanphoto @ Aug 6 2009, 09:14 PM) *
Can anybody read Russian?

http://www.autowp.ru/picture/272268

It's one thing stealing an image, another to put their own watermark on but of all the images they could have stolen, they chose that one? cran.gif

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autowp.ru%2Fpicture%2F272268&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0=

Posted by: OHirtenfelder Aug 7 2009, 06:04 AM

I really wish fuckers like that would just choke, and take the rest of us out of their misery!

Posted by: Nike SB'd Aug 11 2009, 09:45 AM

Here's one...



And this isn't really a "stolen photo" but rather instructions I found on some blog explaining how to steal photos off my flickr lol.


Posted by: DB9 Aug 11 2009, 09:56 AM

Wow what a fag. Now THAT would piss me off.

Posted by: richard.thompson Aug 13 2009, 11:08 AM

QUOTE(The Freak @ Aug 4 2009, 10:16 AM) *
^how did he get the high-res ?

He didn't. Probably selling a printout he made of one of my desktop wallpapers!

Posted by: BlackJack Aug 13 2009, 05:04 PM

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Honda-NSX-GT-Posters_i2369830_.htm

Easton, is this stolen?

Posted by: DB9 Aug 14 2009, 02:55 PM

I think he sold the rights to that photo. I think we're good on that.

Posted by: trackdemon Aug 15 2009, 01:10 PM

Yeah, Easton converted that one into many $$$$ biggrin.gif Good lad

Posted by: //deanphoto Aug 17 2009, 05:00 AM

Another one for you Easton, check out the animated banner...

http://www.alloywheelspin.co.uk/volkswagen-12-c.asp

Posted by: ekkoj Aug 20 2009, 03:25 PM

I actually never thought I'd post one of my own pictures in this thread, but as it turns out a friend friund a company who had utilized several of my photos on their website.

Both to illustrate products and in "special offer" ads.



In total they've used five of my pictures, must have found them on flickr or whatnot. (Not to self, start using watermark/signature again)

Getting paid for this isn't that important, but of course, the golddigger in me starts knocking on the door. Any views on an amount of money to demand (if any)

Posted by: jcreech Aug 20 2009, 04:45 PM

QUOTE(ekkoj @ Aug 20 2009, 07:25 PM) *
I actually never thought I'd post one of my own pictures in this thread, but as it turns out a friend friund a company who had utilized several of my photos on their website.

Both to illustrate products and in "special offer" ads.



In total they've used five of my pictures, must have found them on flickr or whatnot. (Not to self, start using watermark/signature again)

Getting paid for this isn't that important, but of course, the golddigger in me starts knocking on the door. Any views on an amount of money to demand (if any)


http://photographersindex.com/price-adv-calc.htm

Five photos = licensing fee x 5 Send them an invoice. If they dont want to pay, demand they take them down.

Posted by: ekkoj Aug 21 2009, 12:07 AM

QUOTE(jcreech @ Aug 20 2009, 05:45 PM) *
http://photographersindex.com/price-adv-calc.htm

Five photos = licensing fee x 5 Send them an invoice. If they dont want to pay, demand they take them down.



Thanks. Much appreciated.

Couldn't find company website in the list there and also a bit unsure on the distribution, but I got the following.

Type of Use:: Advertising
Specific Use:: Brochures / Catalogs
Press Run:: 10,000 or less
Size:: 1/4 Page or Spot use
Low Price:: $275.00
Average Price:: $425.00
High Price:: $575.00
Survey = 136

Am I way of if I charge them 5 X 300 USD?

Posted by: dvsidboy Aug 24 2009, 02:38 PM

So I have a question on this. When a company photoshops a photos and still uses it they are still in the wrong correct? Or is there a limit to how much they change a photo before its no longer protected by copyrights?

Posted by: Jacob Photo Aug 24 2009, 03:35 PM

QUOTE(dvsidboy @ Aug 24 2009, 03:38 PM) *
So I have a question on this. When a company photoshops a photos and still uses it they are still in the wrong correct? Or is there a limit to how much they change a photo before its no longer protected by copyrights?


they are in the wrong.

Typically, for them to change the photo, it would have to be something abstract such as a rendering or artwork based on a photograph before they can even think of using it beyond copyright law.

Posted by: dvsidboy Aug 24 2009, 07:22 PM

So this is where I am at. I have reached out to a few people involved with the company and still haven't gotten any answers.

This is the T-Shirt being made based off a photo of mine:

full size: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/3854898670_4e8df9e226_o.jpg

Here is the Photo:

Posted by: DB9 Aug 24 2009, 07:33 PM

If they mass produce that shit, you can rip them apart for a TON of dough.

Posted by: JustinCesler Aug 25 2009, 07:05 PM

Get a lawyer and have him make the phone call.

Of course some random employee isn't going to do anything to help/stop this.


If I stole your camera you would do something about it...no?

Edit - did you check with TunerZine to make sure they didn't give/sell them the shot?

Posted by: dvsidboy Aug 26 2009, 06:11 AM

Yeah, I check with TunerZine and they didnt sell the photo.

Also, tried calling/faxing the paperwork, phones are down. Not a good sign.

Posted by: Tifun Sep 7 2009, 08:44 PM

In Indiana you can get a court summon to appear with simply mailing to the companies address. Certified of course so you have proof you did all you could. They don't appear, it goes in default, you win the case, they pay whatever you can reasonably prove your work is worth. My old man is a Lawyer, he has done many cases this way, if you have a lawyer simply give them a call and ask.

Posted by: ekkoj Sep 9 2009, 03:29 PM

QUOTE(jcreech @ Aug 20 2009, 05:45 PM) *
http://photographersindex.com/price-adv-calc.htm

Five photos = licensing fee x 5 Send them an invoice. If they dont want to pay, demand they take them down.

So, I sent the company an invoice 14 days ago, still not answer of course. I really should call them, but my problems is that I live in Norway and he company is located in the UK.

Anybody here from the UK that can help me with some legal advice?

Posted by: JorDinhO Sep 11 2009, 08:30 AM

http://www.prophecy-imports.nl/


Prophecy Imports is a company who import cars from Japan.
Look at the top banner, i see some pictures from here coming by.. Easton's (again). The Supra is also from here, maybe more..

Posted by: richard.thompson Sep 13 2009, 08:28 PM

guys,

i would suggest you consult "fotoquote pro" software for stuff like this. It has thousands of quote calculation options, generates invoices/quotes, etc. I checked the online version Jeff posted, it's nice, but it definitely under-prices and is severely limited for print.

Posted by: richard.thompson Sep 13 2009, 08:35 PM

QUOTE(ekkoj @ Aug 21 2009, 03:07 AM) *
Thanks. Much appreciated.

Couldn't find company website in the list there and also a bit unsure on the distribution, but I got the following.

Type of Use:: Advertising
Specific Use:: Brochures / Catalogs
Press Run:: 10,000 or less
Size:: 1/4 Page or Spot use
Low Price:: $275.00
Average Price:: $425.00
High Price:: $575.00
Survey = 136

Am I way of if I charge them 5 X 300 USD?



I ran it through the software I mentioned:

Web.Ad National Market, 3 Months, Banner, Europe Only:

Low: $661
Med: $882
High: $1323

Good luck with that.

Posted by: jcreech Sep 13 2009, 08:46 PM

QUOTE(richard.thompson @ Sep 14 2009, 12:28 AM) *
guys,

i would suggest you consult "fotoquote pro" software for stuff like this. It has thousands of quote calculation options, generates invoices/quotes, etc. I checked the online version Jeff posted, it's nice, but it definitely under-prices and is severely limited for print.


Thanks a lot Richard. Good looking.

Also in that link above with more of Easton's pics, I recognize that red RX7 too, just can't think of whose it is.

Posted by: John Renna Oct 1 2009, 12:18 PM

So I was informed by a buddy of mine the other day that he saw one of my shots in Super Street. I thought, "funny, I never submitted anything".

Apparently, the owner of a car I shot a few months ago submitted one of my photos to Super Street for their "Readers Rides" section and he won "Ride of the Month". He never contacted me telling me he submitted my photos or asked if he could use them. In fact, I never even gave the owner any of the shots... He took them off of my flicker account.

Funny thing is, it mentions right in the magazine that you shouldn't even bother submitting any photos smaller than 1500x1000. Yet the largest I have available on my flickr (for people to steal apparently) is 1024x681. I just started using watermarks a few weeks ago, now I wish I did that sooner.

The shot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnrenna/3728516270/

The shot published in Super Street November 09:



I am excited to see one of my shots published in a major magazine, but at the same time I am upset that it was published without my knowledge and I did not receive any recognition.

Is there anything I can do about this? Or am I out of luck because the owner most likely claimed the shot as his own?

Posted by: Flaw Oct 1 2009, 12:33 PM

One of DS's new mods (Eggman) is an Editor for that magazine, so maybe he can clear up the source of the image (what the car owner claimed at least).

Posted by: jcreech Oct 7 2009, 10:03 AM

Not sure there is anything you can do honestly, John. They normally don't credit reader's rides nor do they pay. The pic isn't used for advertising a business or service in any way so you aren't likely to benefit anything by going after the owner for illegally distributing your pic, nor would you probably want to since it's one of your buddies. Just scratch this one up as a lesson learned.

Posted by: Nike SB'd Oct 9 2009, 12:55 PM

I am an editor at super street and as a matter of fact I was the one that picked that car for reader's ride of the month. We never pay for reader's rides photos nor are we profiting from the use of the photo. Furthermore we never give credit for a reader's ride photo. I'm sorry you feel that we stole your photo but the truth of the matter is we had no idea the owner didn't have rights to the photo. If anything I'd contact the owner of the car and see if he will give you his prize wink.gif

Posted by: John Renna Oct 11 2009, 05:34 PM

QUOTE(Nike SB'd @ Oct 9 2009, 04:55 PM) *
I am an editor at super street and as a matter of fact I was the one that picked that car for reader's ride of the month. We never pay for reader's rides photos nor are we profiting from the use of the photo. Furthermore we never give credit for a reader's ride photo. I'm sorry you feel that we stole your photo but the truth of the matter is we had no idea the owner didn't have rights to the photo. If anything I'd contact the owner of the car and see if he will give you his prize wink.gif



First of all, thanks for choosing my photo smile.gif

I understand that it was not you guys that stole my photo, rather the owner. I was initially put off because of the description above the photo. It starts off by saying: "So you just cleaned up your ride, got that new lens for your DSLR and this time you actually remembered the memory card..." This leads the reader to believe that the owner is the photographer responsible for the image. It later goes on to say: "Make sure the JPEGSs are 1500x1000 dpi. Dont send us anything smaller than that..." I never posted anything larger than 1024x681, which is probably what he took from my flickr. If I had a watermark on the image would it still have been selected? Regardless, im marking all my photos for now on.

Posted by: Nike SB'd Oct 13 2009, 11:43 PM

QUOTE(John Renna @ Oct 11 2009, 06:34 PM) *
First of all, thanks for choosing my photo smile.gif

I understand that it was not you guys that stole my photo, rather the owner. I was initially put off because of the description above the photo. It starts off by saying: "So you just cleaned up your ride, got that new lens for your DSLR and this time you actually remembered the memory card..." This leads the reader to believe that the owner is the photographer responsible for the image. It later goes on to say: "Make sure the JPEGSs are 1500x1000 dpi. Dont send us anything smaller than that..." I never posted anything larger than 1024x681, which is probably what he took from my flickr. If I had a watermark on the image would it still have been selected? Regardless, im marking all my photos for now on.


I totally understand why you'd be bummed for not getting credit, and yes it is a "given" that typically the owner of the car is the one shooting the photos. If the image is watermarked with something outside of the owner's name we require permission for the image. It's reasons like this that I have always added a small watermark on my image, no matter how ridiculous some people think it is.

Posted by: speedminded Nov 2 2009, 12:42 AM

QUOTE(richard.thompson @ Aug 3 2009, 10:07 PM) *
another ebay bum hocking my work. sigh.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ferrari-Enzo-supercar-A2-poster-picture-print_W0QQitemZ230361719139QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car_Parts_Vehicles_Automobila_ET?hash=item35a2a0e163&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
QUOTE(richard.thompson @ Aug 13 2009, 02:08 PM) *
He didn't. Probably selling a printout he made of one of my desktop wallpapers!
I briefly looked over his feedback and found several of the 1138+ items he's sold to be automotive prints. There's two ways to pursue it, now or later. What's the plan? Sit it out to collect even more?

Posted by: speedminded Nov 6 2009, 02:08 AM

Soo I just had one stolen. The companies new website launched November 1st, I've been waiting for the new site because there's a couple things I'm interested in buying then I see one of my photos lol...it's both in the flash banner and as a category. Not that it matters too much, but I have never uploaded a version of that photo that does not have a copyright or watermark on it.

http://www.dtmfiberwerkz.com/index.php?cPath=22


Posted by: SonicZoom Nov 21 2009, 12:45 AM

QUOTE(John Renna @ Oct 1 2009, 12:18 PM) *
So I was informed by a buddy of mine the other day that he saw one of my shots in Super Street. I thought, "funny, I never submitted anything".

Apparently, the owner of a car I shot a few months ago submitted one of my photos to Super Street for their "Readers Rides" section and he won "Ride of the Month". He never contacted me telling me he submitted my photos or asked if he could use them. In fact, I never even gave the owner any of the shots... He took them off of my flicker account.

Funny thing is, it mentions right in the magazine that you shouldn't even bother submitting any photos smaller than 1500x1000. Yet the largest I have available on my flickr (for people to steal apparently) is 1024x681. I just started using watermarks a few weeks ago, now I wish I did that sooner.

The shot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnrenna/3728516270/

The shot published in Super Street November 09:



I am excited to see one of my shots published in a major magazine, but at the same time I am upset that it was published without my knowledge and I did not receive any recognition.

Is there anything I can do about this? Or am I out of luck because the owner most likely claimed the shot as his own?


This wouldn't be the first time, it's hard to stop other people supplying photos they didn't take to magazines. Especially a content-massive magazine like our sisters Super Street who probably get 10x more emails than us (which equals out to about 643,932 per day)

For Import Tuner's Longshots section, I required the chosen photos to be accompanied by an email stating "I ______ give Import Tuner permission to use my photo for their Longshots section" blah blah blah. It's an extra step for me to take, but so far there haven't been any imposters. And if there was I'd have email verification. whew.

Sean and the crew at SS are great guys, I'm sure they didn't mean any recognition to go unrecognized. He's on the board here
(edit) I see he replied smile.gif spoke too late!

Posted by: james123 Nov 23 2009, 06:02 AM

I think I'm going to go get my law degree and work for Easton. I'll never be out of a job then!

Posted by: John Potts Nov 30 2009, 12:53 PM

Well, didnt think it would happen to me but it did. Heres the story

On one of the honda boards im on, im pretty good friends with the majority of the active members and since its a local board, i shoot their cars, alot. Well, one of the newer kids on there wanted some good rig shots for his desktop, luckily i was out of town and couldnt get to my archives to send him some full rez pics. A few of my buddies post up the resized pics i post on the boards for him and i figure, eh, whatever, their just for his desktop no big deal. well a week passes by and surely enough hes starting up a website and says hes going to be making tshirts with my pictures and has one of them on his banner. I send him a message telling him, "look, if youre going to be using my pics for something other than desktops, its gonna cost ya" he was cool about it and took down the banner and told me to shoot him some prices for the royalties for the pics. Now i gotta figure out how to go thru this without getting fucked by the irs if he decides to make this purchase a tax write off because its not going to be a cheap one.

Posted by: Daniele Fontanin - Dec 6 2009, 02:39 AM

http://www.tougedistribution.com/item--M+M-Honda-Side-Inner-Brace--00701-EG6-M001/

the pic of the S2000 on the top---I see it in DS...I don't remember who is the photographer

Posted by: //deanphoto Dec 15 2009, 12:18 PM

QUOTE(Daniele Fontanin - @ Dec 6 2009, 10:39 AM) *
http://www.tougedistribution.com/item--M+M-Honda-Side-Inner-Brace--00701-EG6-M001/

the pic of the S2000 on the top---I see it in DS...I don't remember who is the photographer



That's Mike Boldt.

Posted by: spphoto.dk Dec 15 2009, 04:24 PM

I don't really know biggrin.gif I just started working in this car dealer/repair shop, and these two pictures are hanging on the wall in the cafeteria, lol.







Posted by: tonymophoto.com Dec 18 2009, 09:06 AM

I just found some of my photos on a website.

It appears to be a blog more than anything as of right now so I'm just sitting back watching.

Should I send an email and atleast say "Hey, ask next time guys". Or should I go ape shit because they plastered they're logo on my photos?

Posted by: //deanphoto Dec 18 2009, 09:26 AM

QUOTE(tonymophoto.com @ Dec 18 2009, 05:06 PM) *
I just found some of my photos on a website.

It appears to be a blog more than anything as of right now so I'm just sitting back watching.

Should I send an email and atleast say "Hey, ask next time guys". Or should I go ape shit because they plastered they're logo on my photos?


I wouldn't be too happy if I spotted my images with different watermarks on, unless I sold them the images. I'd send an email and politely point out that they are breaking copyright law and they have 7 days to remove them before legal action starts.

Posted by: tonymophoto.com Dec 18 2009, 12:41 PM

QUOTE(//deanphoto @ Dec 18 2009, 09:26 AM) *
I wouldn't be too happy if I spotted my images with different watermarks on, unless I sold them the images. I'd send an email and politely point out that they are breaking copyright law and they have 7 days to remove them before legal action starts.


Thanks for the insight Dean, I think I'll take your advice and do just that. I know it didnt make me feel good to come across my images without my permission. It appears as if they left my watermark, but darkened it a bit and made their logo huge and bright. They even were brave enough to link to my site underneath the last photo. Odd situation huh?

Posted by: Aircooled Dec 18 2009, 01:09 PM

QUOTE(mitch_f1 @ Jun 16 2009, 08:20 PM) *
Not sure if Easton knows, but they nicked most of his best shots for their page: http://www.nengun.com/


Did Easton ever get anything from these guys? I was looking through back posts and found this link (Posted in June) and I checked it out today and they still have his images in the top banner.

And with spphoto.dk's post, I think that if the owner/employee printed this out and had it framed I don't think too much can be done, but if he bought it from someone who was churning them out by the hundreds well it's different story of course.

Posted by: MrRedZam Dec 19 2009, 05:58 AM

http://www.fbody.pl/
Camaro and Firebird owners club in Poland

Posted by: John Potts Dec 20 2009, 08:08 PM

^^^whoa, that 3rd gen camaro pic on the right is mine


damn it damn it damn it

Posted by: MustangAficionado Dec 20 2009, 08:35 PM

QUOTE(John Potts @ Dec 20 2009, 08:08 PM) *
^^^whoa, that 3rd gen camaro pic on the right is mine


damn it damn it damn it

So it's a page with two DS members' work on it? Christ

Posted by: Blue Devil Jan 8 2010, 01:10 PM

hey! my 1st copyright infringement!!! i think my virginity was broken without me knowing...

a polish F-body club... and most probably no money... damn it. lol

Posted by: Blue Devil Jan 8 2010, 01:24 PM

I emailed the administrator..

As long as it is a non-profit organization I would be ok as long as I get my website on my image.


but if it is a for profit.. then licensing biatches...

but it's Polish... so who knows if they are even going to bother in paying attention...

Posted by: BartusKN.nl Jan 10 2010, 03:36 AM

Not really stolen, but more on a forum where they talk about is:

http://www.volvo850forum.nl/index.php/topic,16217.msg772836.html#msg772836 and even a bit further you see some more of your work.

Posted by: Marius Feb 18 2010, 09:12 AM

This is the the latest Easton pictures http://www.4tuning.ro/auto-6/masini-tari-49/furious-cat-jaguar-xkr-primeste-doua-noi-pachete-5366.html

Posted by: Marien Feb 18 2010, 01:55 PM

^That's just a website reporting news, just like Autoblog or the front page of DS. No stealing involved here.

Posted by: Marien Feb 18 2010, 03:39 PM

http://www.allposters.nl/-sp/Easton-Chang-GT500-Poster_i3687646_.htm, might be something to look at. The fact that they mention Eastons name suggest that it is legit, but I thought I'd post it anyway.

Posted by: nismo Feb 19 2010, 03:37 PM

Easton....



His most stolen shot ever, somehow made it onto my sidekick theme. hahaha

Posted by: JustinCesler Feb 19 2010, 04:03 PM

Easton - http://www.stillen.com front page animation/loader thingy...

You may only get one chance to see it, it happens fast once it is in your cache

Posted by: Dr. Robot Feb 20 2010, 04:58 PM

http://grandmighty.com/

Is that not eastons picture as the main banner?

Posted by: spphoto.dk Feb 21 2010, 11:54 AM

Not stolen, but I like how it says "Photo: Jaguar" biggrin.gif

http://ekstrabladet.dk/biler/bil_nyheder/article1302054.ece

Posted by: porsche944 Feb 21 2010, 04:01 PM

QUOTE(spphoto.dk @ Feb 21 2010, 04:54 PM) *
Not stolen, but I like how it says "Photo: Jaguar" biggrin.gif

http://ekstrabladet.dk/biler/bil_nyheder/article1302054.ece

they are credited to jaguar on all pages, I think he said he didnt do the rig deletes, etc. I cant find the original thread...

Posted by: richard.thompson Feb 21 2010, 04:48 PM

Easton shot that material for Jag so they can do what they want with the photos. That is press material, if you guys post this stuff every time you encounter it this thread will be 3X longer by the end of the week :-P

Posted by: Dejan Sokolovski Feb 23 2010, 01:52 PM

I love how every shot is stolen from Easton ROFL tongue.gif

Posted by: jrampton Mar 6 2010, 11:10 AM

QUOTE(BartusKN.nl @ Jan 10 2010, 11:36 AM) *
Not really stolen, but more on a forum where they talk about is:

http://www.volvo850forum.nl/index.php/topic,16217.msg772836.html#msg772836 and even a bit further you see some more of your work.



There is even some of Mackey's in there as well : http://www.volvo850forum.nl/index.php/topic,16217.495.html

Posted by: capt_spaghetti Mar 15 2010, 11:29 AM

What about if a web site that sells emergency equipment for police vehicles ripped a photo of mine off and is using it on their web site?

http://dandrelectronics.com/dandr-website.nsf

Mine is the rear view of the police car on the "Police, Fire & Emergency" button. Contacted them once, and they more or less told me to piss off. Contacted a lawyer, paid a bit of money to have them write a letter, which didn't seem to do much, as they never even responded.

Posted by: Mike Boldt Apr 12 2010, 04:29 PM

http://www.e92-lighting.com

Front page photo is mine, they cropped my watermark out... Where do I go from here?

Posted by: //deanphoto Apr 12 2010, 10:47 PM

QUOTE(Mike Boldt @ Apr 13 2010, 01:29 AM) *
http://www.e92-lighting.com

Front page photo is mine, they cropped my watermark out... Where do I go from here?



That looks like a 'one man band' type of operation. It's very unlikely that they'll be able to afford any payouts so I'd just start by sending them a nicely worded, but stern e-mail asking them to remove it.

Posted by: Mike Boldt Apr 13 2010, 08:43 PM

I'll ask him for some free HID's and some LED's LOL

Posted by: Costas Apr 17 2010, 10:32 AM

Anyone seen this image in US magazines?



I did a shoot of that car (thats one of my pics) for the client, and they sold the images to General Tire that's ran them in several magazines by Source Interlink (import tuner, super stret, etc..).

I contacted Gen. Tire and they said they paid for the images so they're allowed to use them.. but me and the client whose car used in the ad never had permission to sell the photos. Wtf do I do now.. the clients car is owned by a local business. Am I screwed?

Posted by: //deanphoto Apr 19 2010, 01:54 PM

I don't think I follow you Costas, This is how I'm reading it...

QUOTE(Costas @ Apr 17 2010, 07:32 PM) *
client, and they sold the images to General Tire


Okay, client sells images to General Tire. Did you hand over the copyright to the client at all? Did you have a contract stating that they could/couldn't so this, 1 month usage etc etc?

QUOTE(Costas @ Apr 17 2010, 07:32 PM) *
I contacted Gen. Tire and they said they paid for the images so they're allowed to use them


Probably makes sense to them, they paid for the images after all.

QUOTE(Costas @ Apr 17 2010, 07:32 PM) *
.. but me and the client whose car used in the ad never had permission to sell the photos.


Do you mean you never gave the client permission - if so ignore my above post.

QUOTE(Costas @ Apr 17 2010, 07:32 PM) *
Wtf do I do now.. the clients car is owned by a local business.


The car could belong to the Queens Mother, it doesn't matter and hasd no relevance, take this out of the equation.

QUOTE(Costas @ Apr 17 2010, 07:32 PM) *
Am I screwed?


Possibly.

I think I've got it now I've re-read it a few times but could you just clarify the above?

is it:

You take photos.
You give client photos - (clarify copyright ownership)
Client sells photos to Gen Tire
Gen Tire use photos in multi magazine ad campaign
Owner of the car not happy (boo hoo, who cares)
You're not happy that they've been sold on - and rightly so!!

Posted by: Costas Apr 19 2010, 02:05 PM

Sorry my writing skills are pretty horrible lol. Me and the client had no type of written contract of how the images can be used. I just basically handed the images over to them and said have fun. They never asked me however if they are allowed to sell the images, then again, I never specifically told them how they can be used. The reason why I mentioned ownership of the car is because the client is actually the local business. They're the ones that sold the images to GT.

So to clarify:
1. I took pics for the business's car with no contract
2. I give them pics.
3. The business sells the pics to General Tire.
4. I'm upset I'm seeing my pics all over different magazines without any compensation.

Posted by: //deanphoto Apr 19 2010, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(Costas @ Apr 19 2010, 11:05 PM) *
Sorry my writing skills are pretty horrible lol. Me and the client had no type of written contract of how the images can be used. I just basically handed the images over to them and said have fun. They never asked me however if they are allowed to sell the images, then again, I never specifically told them how they can be used. The reason why I mentioned ownership of the car is because the client is actually the local business. They're the ones that sold the images to GT.

So to clarify:
1. I took pics for the business's car with no contract
2. I give them pics.
3. The business sells the pics to General Tire.
4. I'm upset I'm seeing my pics all over different magazines without any compensation.


Hey Costas,

No worries dude, thanks for clarifying! Right, I'm not sure how it is in your country but here, it's whoever pushes the shutter button owns copyright. Unless the photographer is doing it under contract for another company and has a contract to say so.

From looking at it 'matter of fact' - They are the ones in the wrong, they've sold your property, they now owe you. However, looking at it fairly and as a middle man I'd say they probably didn't know that you held copyright as:

a) you gave them images and said 'have fun' (pretty sure it wasn't this term but I know what you mean)
cool.gif you didn't say that they could not be sold on
c) they may think that they own copyright as it's their car featured in your photo (this is bollocks and I'm sure they'll claim this).

So, I guess there are 2 things you can do. You can go all out and get solicitors in, possibly damaging your reputation, there's and Gen Tires along the way or; you could ask for some compensation of some sort. Explain to them politely that they are your images and you never intended them to be used in such a manner etc etc - just be sure to keep the red mist away and look at it from their point of view also.

And next time - Make sure you explain, in writing, that in no uncertain terms can the images be sold onto other parties etc etc.

I know the above doesn't really help but I think I would just put this down to experience sad.gif

Posted by: Blue Devil Apr 20 2010, 05:11 AM

and worse case scenario.. learn from this and know that you can't shoot without a written licensing agreement at least.

one that states clearly:

You own copyright
These photos are NOT transferable
and when it comes to individuals I always put "Personal use only"
when it's a business I make sure to write down what their ORIGINAL intent is for the photos. If you want to use it for anything else... be ready to pay.

I have gotten little checks here and there just because an architectural firm wanted to use one of my photos for a "Thank you card"... or flyers... or whatever... they can never forsee what the use of the image will be... but i don't mind getting those checks. wink.gif

Posted by: Costas Apr 20 2010, 02:15 PM

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll go ahead and contact the business that sold them the images and see what they say. From what I've heard from other people however, they're pretty hard headed so we'll see where this goes.. lol. I'll keep you updated.

Posted by: VisualEchos May 9 2010, 08:46 AM

Can anyone here read Japanese/Chinese? I found a site with some of my stuff on it, but I'm not sure they're doing anything wrong. Here's the link..

http://www.ipaiche.com/archives/tag/brcn_%E8%8E%B2%E8%8A%B1

If you click the link under the picture there are several of mine shown.

Posted by: Marien May 9 2010, 09:29 AM

Google Chrome translation function of a part of the FAQ:

QUOTE
Q: ipaiche.com the webmaster who is?
A: ipaiche.com the prime suspect is the guy who likes making cars, of course, TA is not the strongest film car enthusiasts, and as such, TA created the platform, and to beat cars with more guys with love share experiences and common progress. IZ also like to thank the students help complete a website design and build work, please visit his personal homepage: http://veryiz.com .

Q: Contributors can give ipaiche.com it?
A: most welcome, but the site no profit income, can not provide for royalties. From the current site is not yet open platform means you can mail your work to submit to us. Please see specific ways Submission . If you have three or more successful submission, ipaiche.com for you to open a signed column , you have your own portfolio.


Although horrible reading material, it looks like some kind of blog...

This is what they say about your pics
QUOTE
UK peppers: User self-timer LOTUS Lotus sports car
September 15, 2009 Editor's Note: love making cars | ipaiche.com Photo of: VisualEchos
This set of photos were friends VisualEchos time in three days shooting, I personally feel very good standard. And the former group with modified Lotus released the official photos to share with you.

Posted by: VisualEchos May 9 2010, 01:02 PM

Looks innocuous enough, thank you sir.

Posted by: StE823 May 18 2010, 10:52 PM

QUOTE(VisualEchos @ May 9 2010, 01:02 PM) *
Looks innocuous enough, thank you sir.

the guy like ur shot a lot and wanted to share it on his blog, no google translation smile.gif

Posted by: brasher May 25 2010, 10:41 PM

Easton another one mate!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB-P_YUHNCE&feature=player_embedded

start of the video, that the famous Taco shot?

Posted by: Nike SB'd Jun 10 2010, 10:11 AM

I don't know if this technically qualifies but I found it humorous.




Posted by: JustinCesler Jun 10 2010, 01:41 PM

Yeah but Sean - they have Whips, Chicks AND Drifts... I mean, c'mon, you don't have any of that stuff!!

Posted by: //deanphoto Jun 11 2010, 02:18 AM

http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/beautiful-examples-of-car-photography/

Posted by: SonicZoom Jun 16 2010, 02:26 PM

QUOTE(//deanphoto @ Jun 11 2010, 03:18 AM) *
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/beautiful-examples-of-car-photography/


DS is ALL up in that page lol

Posted by: DonJuanMair Jun 25 2010, 10:29 AM

Mother fuckers stole my shit, so pissed about this because im super broke right now and they have used these images in a few magazines!!

http://www.pressekatalog.de/Mercedes+Tuner-ebinr_2045120.html


Posted by: Chin.Up Jun 25 2010, 03:20 PM

QUOTE(DonJuanMair @ Jun 25 2010, 12:29 PM) *
Mother fuckers stole my shit, so pissed about this because im super broke right now and they have used these images in a few magazines!!

http://www.pressekatalog.de/Mercedes+Tuner-ebinr_2045120.html


Wow that sucks! Looks like they made a full feature on it too...

Posted by: Chin.Up Jun 25 2010, 03:22 PM

This guy edited/tampered with my shot without my permission.

http://www.denisdesigns.com/blog/2009/12/20-amazing-vehicle-photos/



Originally

Posted by: Ottern Jul 3 2010, 10:55 AM


Easton (again):

Have you done business with a company in Norway called "Steinar Stolen AS"?

If not, they have used your "Mustang in garage, with pistons in the foreground" shot in a full page spread promoting their busniess over here in Norway.
They are an American muscle car parts and tuning company..

They can be reached at info@sstolen.no if you feel the need..

-Fredrik

Posted by: Travis Geny Jul 9 2010, 09:13 PM

So unless you have an explicit contract with the client, you have complete rights over usage. They CANNOT sell photos without you releasing the rights. You take photo, you own photo. They now owe you money. You own the copywrite to that image.

I have had long conversations with my father, who is a preeminent patent attourney's in the united states. You have the right to demand renumeration (payment) and you can file suit if they balk.

Posted by: Nate047 Aug 23 2010, 04:21 PM

Not really a stolen image so much as a "borrowed" logo.



vs: our new logo (used on issues from Jan 2010 and newer)



head.gif

Posted by: Easton Aug 23 2010, 04:33 PM

QUOTE(Ottern @ Jul 4 2010, 04:55 AM) *
Easton (again):

Have you done business with a company in Norway called "Steinar Stolen AS"?

If not, they have used your "Mustang in garage, with pistons in the foreground" shot in a full page spread promoting their busniess over here in Norway.
They are an American muscle car parts and tuning company..

They can be reached at info@sstolen.no if you feel the need..

-Fredrik


holy crap - are they seriously called sstolen.no? lol thats pretty ironic!

i think i'll look into this one.. it sounds pretty serious.

Posted by: Daz Aug 25 2010, 01:14 AM

Would anyone be willing to take a look at the contract I've written up for my photoshoots to see if I'm missing anything major?

I don't really want to post it a public forum just yet til it's finished.

Also, when you guys get your client to sign the contract do you get them to sign 2 copies (1 for them and 1 for you?)

Thanks.

Posted by: moe Aug 31 2010, 06:40 AM

Easton check out http://bladespeed.org/

Posted by: DB9 Aug 31 2010, 03:46 PM

I think that picture hold the Guinness world record for most stolen.

Posted by: Possible hero Sep 15 2010, 02:06 PM

QUOTE(moe @ Aug 31 2010, 08:40 AM) *
Easton check out http://bladespeed.org/


Ugliest site EVER! Good copied photo though... hehe smile.gif

Posted by: richard.thompson Sep 22 2010, 07:27 AM

http://hires-desktop-wallpapers.com/cars/porsche/carrera-gt/

rehosting my work without watermarks, refusing to remove it. sigh.

Posted by: Blue Devil Oct 12 2010, 06:59 AM

What to do about this one guys?

A wheel company asked me about licensing to use my image to photoshop some wheels on it. I gave them a very reasonable fee... but they didn't like it. So I didn't think much of it. Then I happen to run into this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/d2forged/5033165185/ They mentioned my name but I never gave them permission to take it. So, that doesn't make it right.

Their photoshoped wheel...


the original....


I really liked their wheels and I was even considering buying a set later on... but this feels like a stab in the back.

Call them directly and try to talk to the owner?
Email them and get in contact with the person that was talking to me? Which would possibly just remove my image from Flickr... and at this point I want $$$$ wink.gif

Posted by: JustinCesler Oct 12 2010, 01:17 PM

Call them and talk directly to the owner. Explain that he wouldn't appreciate if you stole a set of his wheels, and obviously, you don't appreciate that he stole your image. Since you like the wheels, maybe offer him a trade and that way he can get what he wants and you, the same.

Do not let this slide.

Posted by: MichaelKalbo Oct 12 2010, 05:49 PM

wow. I definitely would not let this one go. I would ask for licensing fee's and other damages. After reading a lot of articles regarding such things I would even go as far as seeking a lawyer. Take a look at this article

http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=18750

And also research this ladies website http://www.photoattorney.com/

Posted by: Carter N Oct 12 2010, 08:12 PM

QUOTE(MichaelKalbo @ Oct 12 2010, 09:49 PM) *
wow. I definitely would not let this one go. I would ask for licensing fee's and other damages. After reading a lot of articles regarding such things I would even go as far as seeking a lawyer. Take a look at this article

http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=18750

And also research this ladies website http://www.photoattorney.com/


(4) if you register before an infringement, you can recover up to $100,000 per violation without proving actual damages.

*now registering everything*

Posted by: moe Oct 12 2010, 10:28 PM

QUOTE(moe @ Aug 31 2010, 06:40 PM) *
Easton check out http://bladespeed.org/


Btw Easton, I have an old friend who's part of the Bladespeed car club. It's just a regular car club, not a money-making site or anything. If you want I can politely ask if he can get the guy in charge to take down the photo.

Posted by: Blue Devil Oct 25 2010, 10:42 AM

so I called them today and they put my image as private.. funny... I got some screenshots of the whole thing as well. I will keep you all posted.

Posted by: Blue Devil Oct 25 2010, 03:56 PM

So, I get this PM from the forum that they contacted me from originaly.

After they put the photo as private...

QUOTE
Hello this is ***** @ ******Company. I must have taken down your number incorrectly so I am contacting your here. As I stated earlier, we did not use your photo for any advertisements nor did we use it as promotional material. It was posted in our flickr for internal use to see if the photo would be worth purchasing and it was not.

Although it was mistakenly posted publicly we never used the photo for any sales perposes or shared it with any one and we do not plan to. The photo has been removed from our flickr and this issue is now resolved. I hope this issue will go no futher and we wish you the best of luck with your photography.



I feel like saying to him...
QUOTE
So, let's say... I take a set of your wheels and then I install them in my car and then ask you how much for them... and since its not the price that I want to pay... I tell you no, forget it and I take the wheels anyway. A month later when you find out that I took your wheels and ask me for pay for it... I write back to you:

As stated ealier, I didn't use your wheels for racing or car shows. It was just to show my friends and family I kept the car in the garage. Just to see if they were worth buying. And they were not.

Althought I mikstakenly took the car out with your wheels still on it... to the store to buy some stuff. I never used it to show off my car at car shows or car meetings and I wasn't planing to. The wheels have been removed and shipped back to you and this issue is now resolved. I hope this issue will go no futher and I wish you the best of luck in your wheel selling.


I have a friend that is a lawyer and you better believe I will call him up and figure out what we can do about this...

Posted by: OHirtenfelder Oct 25 2010, 05:03 PM

I really, really think that that would be a FANTASTIC response. Fuck those guys.

QUOTE
The photo has been removed from our flickr and this issue is now resolved.

WTF is that. And the issue is now resolved....no it's not. They still took your photo, unlawfully, and used it.
Please, please, please send them that response.Please.

And then let us know what they say...

Posted by: Blue Devil Oct 26 2010, 11:17 AM

Great, so i talked to a lawyer and basically told me that it's really not worth fighting if they took it down already.

So... if that's coming from someone that does this kind of thing for a living... i guess they got away with it. That's why our professions have NO respect. Cause companies can get away with stuff like this all the time.

Posted by: Ottern Nov 1 2010, 02:03 PM

QUOTE(Easton @ Aug 24 2010, 02:33 AM) *
holy crap - are they seriously called sstolen.no? lol thats pretty ironic!

i think i'll look into this one.. it sounds pretty serious.


If you haven't looked into it yet, send me a PM or an email fredrik(at)fuelphotos(dot)noand I'll give you the details.

-Fredrik

Posted by: NVphotoman Nov 8 2010, 05:22 PM

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Ford-Shelby-GT500-Posters_i2369831_.htm

anyone find there photos on here?

Posted by: VisualEchos Nov 18 2010, 03:50 PM

IvyLeagueEast is a suck-ass website that uses everyone's stuff without credit...

http://ivyleagueeast.com/2010/11/07/natural-beauty/

I've seen several DS'ers on there, saw Sean K's stuff on their Facebook page too.

Posted by: Carter N Nov 23 2010, 07:56 PM

So i have had my first photo stolen. sorta.



The owner of the car apparently cut out my watermark and entered it into a contest and now the photo is going to be put on a calender and sold... what do I do?

Posted by: Dr. Robot Nov 23 2010, 08:09 PM

You really don't want it in the calender? Personally I would be fine with it but ask to give me photo credit and a link to my site.

Posted by: Carter N Nov 24 2010, 11:19 AM

QUOTE(Dr. Robot @ Nov 24 2010, 12:09 AM) *
You really don't want it in the calender? Personally I would be fine with it but ask to give me photo credit and a link to my site.


I didn't want it in there if it was going to be altered and not include my watermark...

I got in contact with the calender creator, we have reached an agreement.

Posted by: Dr. Robot Nov 24 2010, 12:06 PM

Good to hear! smile.gif

Posted by: jcreech Mar 21 2011, 02:27 PM

Got another one for Easton. This happens to be on Valvoline's Facebook Page.

http://img194.imageshack.us/i/picture3vk.png/

Posted by: David L Mar 28 2011, 10:03 PM

This is really good idea of reporting.Generally,people abandon the stolen photos without report.But once we abandoned it,we may forget later.If the photos are good enough for everything,We needn't skip this issue.So,Nonlegal issues cannot be tolerated.

http://www.headshotlondon.co.uk/editorial_photographers/
http://www.headshotlondon.co.uk/actors_headshots/

Posted by: Daz May 10 2011, 04:24 AM

Advice on this please chaps.

I found some of my photo's used here - http://www.juststance.com/style/uncommon/

Someone is telling me that because it's for editorial use that it's fine but I'm pretty sure it's still a copyright breach as I wasn't contacted. Plus there's a link to the shop on the same page.

Now, I'm going to be releasing my new website shortly and will use this to get some more coverage on the site but I'm curious at to what the law with with using photo's on blog websites?

Posted by: Carter N May 10 2011, 11:16 AM

QUOTE(Daz @ May 10 2011, 08:24 AM) *
Advice on this please chaps.

I found some of my photo's used here - http://www.juststance.com/style/uncommon/

Someone is telling me that because it's for editorial use that it's fine but I'm pretty sure it's still a copyright breach as I wasn't contacted. Plus there's a link to the shop on the same page.

Now, I'm going to be releasing my new website shortly and will use this to get some more coverage on the site but I'm curious at to what the law with with using photo's on blog websites?


People are not allowed to repost your images without your consent, bottom line. Juan Perez is the owner/creator of that site and I have had problems with him before. Total asshat.

Posted by: Easton May 10 2011, 06:28 PM

QUOTE(jcreech @ Mar 22 2011, 08:27 AM) *
Got another one for Easton. This happens to be on Valvoline's Facebook Page.

http://img194.imageshack.us/i/picture3vk.png/


shit!

Posted by: Daz May 11 2011, 03:30 AM

QUOTE(Carter N @ May 10 2011, 08:16 PM) *
People are not allowed to repost your images without your consent, bottom line. Juan Perez is the owner/creator of that site and I have had problems with him before. Total asshat.

I thought as much. Thankts Carter thumbs_up.gif .

I'm sure editorial use just means there are no model release forms available.

Posted by: Costas Jun 3 2011, 02:20 PM

Welp, over a year later since I contacted the tire company that used my pics in magazine advertisements, we concluded with a hefty little settlement smile.gif Barely touched the 5 figure range but back down to 4 after lawyer fees lol. Either way, free money for me since that shoot was 3-4 years old by now and I no longer had any intention to do anything else with those photos. Goes to show that some cases are sometimes worth fighting for. This is after I had 3 local lawyers tell me to just chalk it up as a lesson learned and not do anything about it.

Posted by: J.YU Jun 10 2011, 08:09 AM

Hi all. On my quest to find more information on dealing with a stolen image of mine, I stumbled across this site.
I have gone through and read all 12 pages in this thread and there's lots of good info here, so thank you all for that.

My dilemma is that a shop owner has used one of my images without my knowledge or permission to print out his business cards.
Correct me if I'm wrong but according to Canadian law, this is an infringement of copyright because it is used for commercial reasons.

A question I have is how do I appraise an accurate quote for the invoice if I don't know how many cards he has printed out already?
I have used this http://photographersindex.com/price-adv-calc.htm and came up with this based on a reasonable estimation:

Type of Use:: Advertising
Specific Use:: Free standing insert
Press Run:: 10,000 or less
Size:: 1/4 Page or Spot use
Low Price:: $200.00
Average Price:: $350.00
High Price:: $500.00

Also, should he choose not to pay, what other viable options do I have besides hiring a lawyer?

His business card:


My photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jyuphotography/3882834937/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jyuphotography/3882834937/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/jyuphotography/, on Flickr

Posted by: Jacob Photo Jun 10 2011, 09:14 AM

QUOTE(J.YU @ Jun 10 2011, 09:09 AM) *
Hi all. On my quest to find more information on dealing with a stolen image of mine, I stumbled across this site.
I have gone through and read all 12 pages in this thread and there's lots of good info here, so thank you all for that.

My dilemma is that a shop owner has used one of my images without my knowledge or permission to print out his business cards.
Correct me if I'm wrong but according to Canadian law, this is an infringement of copyright because it is used for commercial reasons.


How did that company get ahold of your image in the first place? Do you have any contact with the shop owner? It may be more beneficial to work out a deal directly with the shop owner, as it may lead to more shoots in the future.

Posted by: J.YU Jun 10 2011, 09:55 AM

I do not know where he obtained my image. He could have gotten a print screen from my flickr as I have restricted downloading of my images simply to reduce situations I'm currently in.
I have his contact and am in the process of writing up an e-mail addressing this dilemma and proposing a solution in which we can both agree upon. However, I would still like to prepare for disagreements.
One of these solutions is that I offer to redesign his current card that flows better with the photo, for a discounted fee.

Posted by: TW0R Jun 12 2011, 08:21 PM

Avenue Autosport stole one of my old pics of the Forge Scirocco for an ad in the latest issue of S3 mag. Been meaning to send them an email, but I've been so busy traveling.

Posted by: ekkoj Jun 18 2011, 02:00 PM

Anyone know if these guys selling wheels of Ebay are real companies or just a one-man-show-thing? Or, do Ebay make you say something about the copyright of the pictures you upload there? This guy has several of my images all over his ebay-shop. You guys might want to check if he has any of yours as well... Don´t really know if there is any use of doing something about it though...



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/20-RIM-WHEELS-FITS-MERCEDES-R-ML-GL-GLK-CLASS-320-350-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19c6421156QQitemZ110700400982QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Posted by: GFWilliams Jul 6 2011, 09:08 AM

http://fanzter.com/products/coolpapers


iPhone app which has a lot of stolen photos from people on here. Not sure how to deal with them - any advice?

Posted by: Carter N Jul 9 2011, 02:43 PM

compile list of all members with photos, write email to app developer stating if the photos are not removed we will have a bill sent to them via an attorney for a percentage of the profits of the apps.

Posted by: don Jul 15 2011, 12:16 AM

I took this photo back in 2009


and then they used it to promote this event:


and then they decide to rape it in photoshop and use for another event:




Another case with this photo:


I've seen some postcards made from it but even an A2 poster (from 1280px image! It looks horrible and I can only be glad they didn't credit me there smile.gif

Posted by: Challengemaster Jul 19 2011, 11:02 AM

One more for easton

http://www.manic-motorz.com/

Posted by: Mr Cory Jul 24 2011, 09:35 PM

Another one for Easton,

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Limiter-Bashing/237857578685

Wish my photos were this popular lol

Posted by: fastautos Aug 1 2011, 03:41 PM

ANOTHER one for Easton:

http://www.iphonenows.com/Screensavers/cars/2011/0613/10696.html

Posted by: Mitch Hemming Aug 24 2011, 04:23 AM

QUOTE(Mr Cory @ Jul 25 2011, 03:35 PM) *
Another one for Easton,

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Limiter-Bashing/237857578685

Wish my photos were this popular lol



dont think that ones a big deal.. its only a fb 'like' page?

Posted by: Kasper Oct 7 2011, 12:20 AM

Hi guys, just started using google's image search engine.
This one is for most of us: http://www.ipaiche.com/archives/date/2010/08

Don't know what the site is about, but its watermarking and stuff going on! nono.gif

Posted by: NVphotoman Oct 7 2011, 02:47 PM

QUOTE(Kasper @ Oct 7 2011, 04:20 AM) *
Hi guys, just started using google's image search engine.
This one is for most of us: http://www.ipaiche.com/archives/date/2010/08

Don't know what the site is about, but its watermarking and stuff going on! nono.gif



图片作者: NVphotoman 水边的阿狄丽娜:兰博基尼LP560 Spyder

at least they said my name lol

Posted by: Mr.D Oct 9 2011, 07:40 AM

This site sells some of our stuff. Gonna send my lawyers up their ass.
http://coolspotters.com/supercars/lamborghini-gallardo/wallpapers?id=6304&page=2

Posted by: GFWilliams Nov 28 2011, 06:22 AM

Lots and lots of people's stuff here:
http://www.freehdwall.com/

Posted by: Daz Apr 19 2012, 07:42 AM

QUOTE(GFWilliams @ Nov 28 2011, 03:22 PM) *
Lots and lots of people's stuff here:
http://www.freehdwall.com/

They work fast, Sean's shot of the Lambo is on there. They were only posted the other day.

Posted by: skr Apr 24 2012, 02:00 PM



e2blade, aka Charles Siritho, care to explain?

Posted by: Jbs Apr 24 2012, 07:12 PM

LMAOo

Posted by: Dejan Sokolovski Apr 26 2012, 03:50 PM

Haha laugh.gif

Posted by: OHirtenfelder Apr 26 2012, 10:38 PM

^W!T!F! That's some other bullshit. And that fucking motherfucker is on DS. Moderators, you need to kick that motherfucker out real quick, fast and in a hurry.

I do not believe that shit, claiming another persons shot like that. And to be dumb enough to do it with the one photo for which there is a big, hyped up BTS video. Excuse my language, but what a fucking cunt!
For real. That shit pisses me off.

Posted by: Dejan Sokolovski Apr 27 2012, 10:03 AM

Yeah man, he even has his own meme now. It's called scumbag-carphotographer! smile.gif


Posted by: larsen Apr 29 2012, 02:44 PM


Posted by: MaTBoY Apr 29 2012, 08:53 PM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOLOOOLOLOLOLOLOOOLOOOOL.

WHAT A FUCKING RETARD.

Posted by: Martin Apr 29 2012, 11:32 PM

Just so you know guys, its easy to save a file thats shot @ iso100..

Posted by: rob200sx Apr 30 2012, 01:37 AM

*grabs some popcorn*

Posted by: daniele fontanin May 10 2012, 11:49 AM

http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/05/09/custom-widebody-porsche-boxster-spyder-with-forgestar-wheels/?pid=52092&gallery=4505#tp

john!

Posted by: Daz May 11 2012, 02:56 AM

QUOTE(daniele fontanin @ May 10 2012, 08:49 PM) *
http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/05/09/custom-widebody-porsche-boxster-spyder-with-forgestar-wheels/?pid=52092&gallery=4505#tp

john!

That's worthy of an invoice.

Posted by: larsen May 11 2012, 07:19 AM

Guessing forgestar is the client??

Posted by: Mike Hyatt May 11 2012, 08:23 PM

QUOTE(OHirtenfelder @ Apr 27 2012, 02:38 AM) *
^W!T!F! That's some other bullshit. And that fucking motherfucker is on DS. Moderators, you need to kick that motherfucker out real quick, fast and in a hurry.

I do not believe that shit, claiming another persons shot like that. And to be dumb enough to do it with the one photo for which there is a big, hyped up BTS video. Excuse my language, but what a fucking cunt!
For real. That shit pisses me off.


Talked to him once too, seemed like a jerk. Told me I take "far too long to edit photos for someone who doesn't have his own style yet. Mine take less than 5 minutes, 2 hours max." I can see why now.

Posted by: MaTBoY May 11 2012, 11:33 PM

hahaha the watermark is forge. The Ironing is delicous.

Posted by: Timr Jun 7 2012, 10:43 PM

http://www.meganracing.com/product_detail.asp?prodid=985&catid=86

I'm not quite on the DS level of being a photog, but I work every day towards improving and learning. It is still my photo I may not be a famous photog, but I sure am tired of people using my photos with out crediting me. I had one not to long ago pop up on mazda and mazda fitment facebook group pg's, 1500+ likes, not one of those 1500 people knew I took that picture..

In the link above the roller on the very left is used for advertisement of Megan Racings coil overs... I lurk this thread occasionally, never I thought I would be the one with the stolen photo a couple years ago, I just read through the whole thing and this is what I have come up with.

Here is what I have so far I need some help I never have approached this before... Should I submit an email saying this, or contact my lawyer who is a pretty powerful figure. Its a hassle, to contact him though, hes a friend of a friend, type deal. Here is the email I wrote up again, any help would be greatly appreciated. Also I wouldn't mind scoring a set of their coil-overs on top of the invoice if anyone has any ideas how to state that.. Seeing I do have a Miata lol, thanks in advance guys. I was thinking maybe a PS I am a huge fan of your products, any extra compensation is welcome. Also I don't want to over price my photo but, it's hard to judge, I'd prefer not to have to take legal action(I'll go there if I have to)

Dear _______,

Thank you for using my image, the rolling shot of the blue Miata, which is being used to advertise your product (EZ Street coil-overs) on your web page. I am flattered you appreciated my photo enough to use for your advertisement, and would be more then happy to send you more images for use on your website if needed. However, those images are made with my heart, sweat and soul. In usual cases, I would be charging you a licensing fee and statuatory damages. I am willing to understand your oversight of using my image without my permission. Since you found my first image with in standards for use of advertising, I am also willing to offer you a discount on any other license fees for any further images you intend to use. I am also willing to extend the 2nd year licensing to you free of charge as a gesture of goodwill.. Attached below low is an invoice of xxx-x USD; Payment greater than 30 days constitutes copyright infringement and I will instruct my lawyer to issue a cease and decease letter, as you have used my photograph for commercial reasons.

Posted by: SC David Jun 9 2012, 04:36 PM

Yikes, that's no good. I think the approach you've taken is a good one. I might even wait to say that you have a lawyer, and just wait to hear back from them first before you say anything remotely threatening. If they tell you to fuck off, or if you don't hear from them, then it's time to whip out the big guns. But in my experience, I find you accomplish much more when you approach the infringing party in an amicable way.


Mr. GF Williams, someone liked your Veyron in the tunnel enough to use it in a advertisement... http://www.goldrushrally.com/content.php?212-goldRush-Rally-gr4%E2%84%A2-is-proud-to-announce-SeventhWing%E2%84%A2-as-our-Silver-Sponsor

Posted by: ekkoj Jun 10 2012, 07:41 PM

A bit down on this page i found a gtr-picture i think belongs to someone on here.

http://designsidea.com/desktop-wallpapers/#

Posted by: Carlson Jun 21 2012, 02:42 AM

Ahahahahaha! Stolen Huh!

Posted by: e2blade Jul 31 2012, 03:07 PM

I had a feeling I'd make it in this thread.

Points for me.

And points for me for ACTUALLY REPLYING.

Posted by: Costas Aug 28 2012, 08:43 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oracal-970RA-Gloss-White-CAST-Vinyl-Car-Wrap-Film-5-x-150-Roll-/170885846588?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c997163c&vxp=mtr#ht_5293wt_954

Not even gonna bother -__-

Posted by: Erppa Jan 11 2014, 05:24 AM

Tadaa
http://www.flickr.com/photos/87134139@N06/11886887853/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/87134139@N06/9057081809/

Posted by: Brent B Jan 12 2014, 10:32 AM

^^Absolutely love that shot, dude! Too bad about the stealing though. sad.gif

Posted by: Erppa Jan 12 2014, 11:02 PM

Thx for the support smile.gif I am taking screen shots for few weeks and then sending them a tiny invoice.

Posted by: Blue Devil Apr 9 2014, 07:03 AM

So this one just went down:



I will be calling today and figure out what department needs to get my invoice.

Posted by: jimmyjjohn Jul 23 2014, 10:39 PM

I'm new and suck as a photographer, but the few things I have had featured I take a lot of pride in. I vote sticky.

http://www.avok.eu

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