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Dieselstation Car Forums _ Compare & Contrast _ DSCOTY '08: Family Sedans

Posted by: clarkma5 Feb 6 2008, 08:10 PM

For more on the DieselStation Car of the Year '08 competition, please see http://forums.dieselstation.com/index.php?showtopic=23697

Chevrolet Malibu
Base MSRP:
$19,995
Available Engines: 2.4 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 169 HP and 160 ft.-lbs. of torque, 3.6 liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 252 HP and 251 ft.-lbs. of torque, 2.4 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with Hybrid system with 164 HP and 159 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic (2.4 and Hybrid only) or 6-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode (V6 only)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 24 City/32 Highway (Hybrid), 22/30 (2.4), 17/26 (3.6)
Curb Weight: 3415-3649 lbs.







Dodge Avenger
Base MSRP:
$19,265
Available Engines: 2.4 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 173 HP and 166 ft.-lbs. of torque, 2.7 liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 186 HP and 191 ft.-lbs. of torque, 3.5 liter SOHC 24-valve V6 with 235 HP and 232 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic transmission (2.4 & 2.7 only) or 6-speed automatic transmission with manual shifting mode (3.5 only)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive or All-wheel drive (R/T model only)
EPA Fuel Economy: 21 City/30 Highway (2.4), 19/27 (2.7), 16/26 (3.5 FWD), 15/24 (3.5 AWD)
Curb Weight: 3355-3738 lbs.







Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable
Base MSRP:
$23,485 (Taurus), $23,780 (Sable)
Available Engines: 3.5 liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 263 HP and 249 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic transmission
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive or All-wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 18 City/28 Highway (FWD), 17/24 (AWD)
Curb Weight: 3643-3820 lbs.







Honda Accord Sedan
Base MSRP:
$20,360
Available Engines: 2.4 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with 177 HP and 161 ft.-lbs. of torque (190/162 in EX models), 3.5 liter SOHC 24-valve V6 with Variable Cylinder Management and 268 HP and 248 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual (N/A on V6) or 5-speed automatic transmission (standard on V6)
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 22 City/31 Highway (2.4 5MT), 21/31 (2.4 5AT), 19/29 (V6)
Curb Weight: 3230-3600 lbs.







Saturn Aura Green Line
Base MSRP:
$22,790
Available Engines: 2.4 liter DOHC 16-valve inline-4 with Hybrid system with 164 HP and 159 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
EPA Fuel Economy: 24 City/32 Highway
Curb Weight: 3529 lbs.






Posted by: moethepaki Feb 7 2008, 01:37 AM

I voted for the Accord. Though its awful looking interior almost made me vote for the Malibu.

Posted by: clarkma5 Feb 7 2008, 01:42 AM

QUOTE(moethepaki @ Feb 7 2008, 01:37 AM) *
I voted for the Accord. Though it's awful looking interior almost made me vote for the Malibu.



I went for the Malibu. The Accord is a little bit superior, but it will soon be uniquitous and the Malibu really does look way better inside and out.

Posted by: moethepaki Feb 7 2008, 01:43 AM

QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Feb 7 2008, 01:42 PM) *
The Accord is a little bit superior, but it will soon be uniquitous and the Malibu really does look way better inside and out.


Inside, I'll agree. Outside is debatable. I think the Malibu looks awkward from some angles, and though the Accord is a bit blah, it's still a very handsome looking car.

Posted by: clarkma5 Feb 7 2008, 02:10 AM

Ugh I find the Accord just revolting.

Also, I applaud whoever voted for the Taurus/Sable. I do like the improvements that have been made to those cars.

Posted by: moethepaki Feb 7 2008, 02:16 AM

QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Feb 7 2008, 02:10 PM) *
Also, I applaud whoever voted for the Taurus/Sable. I do like the improvements that have been made to those cars.


Agreed, they're a very stylish pair of cars.

Posted by: Bjorn Feb 7 2008, 03:31 AM

Had to vote for the Aura...everything else was either hideous on the outside, or hideous on the inside...

Posted by: pollard Feb 7 2008, 08:21 AM

voted Malibu looks better inside than accord
do not care for the others

Posted by: Bjorn Feb 7 2008, 09:13 AM

Just outta curiosity, is the Aura Greenline considered a hybrid? I know it has that system where is shuts down the engine on deceleration and while idling, but it doesn't have an electric motor...so would the state of California let you go in the car pool lane in one of these alone?

Posted by: clarkma5 Feb 7 2008, 09:15 AM

QUOTE(Bjorn @ Feb 7 2008, 09:13 AM) *
Just outta curiosity, is the Aura Greenline considered a hybrid? I know it has that system where is shuts down the engine on deceleration and while idling, but it doesn't have an electric motor...so would the state of California let you go in the car pool lane in one of these alone?


No, I think you have it backward. It doesn't shut down the engine under circumstances where a lot of other hybrids would (since it's a series system and not a parallel system) but it does have an electric motor.

And the california car pool thing was only open to vehicles with a combined EPA mileage in excess of some value (I think it was 45 MPG) and there were only 70,000 stickers for it. Thus the only cars eligible for that were the Civic Hybrid and the Prius and the stickers ran out in mid-2006 anyway.

Posted by: UserDrew Feb 7 2008, 11:50 AM

http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/29/autos/bc.ford.homersimpson.ap/index.htm

Posted by: Synesthesia Feb 7 2008, 01:15 PM

QUOTE(moethepaki @ Feb 7 2008, 05:16 AM) *
Agreed, they're a very stylish pair of cars.


Are you kidding? I can see your argument about the exterior, but that interior looks soooo outdated!

I voted for the Accord. While not the gorgeous, I think it's looks are interesting at least and it'll be the best car for a family in the long run.

Posted by: moethepaki Feb 7 2008, 02:35 PM

QUOTE(Synesthesia @ Feb 8 2008, 01:15 AM) *
Are you kidding? I can see your argument about the exterior, but that interior looks soooo outdated!


What's to kid about, you saw the argument.

Posted by: Razor Feb 7 2008, 02:59 PM

IMO the Accord is the coolest car here, winning barely over the Malibu.

Posted by: dukenukem Feb 7 2008, 03:11 PM

Accord is still the best FAMILY car here. Others have gotten better but none are as good as the Accord.

Posted by: UserDrew Feb 7 2008, 10:30 PM

I voted for the Aurora. A friend of mine drives a Four banger Aura. I told him to avoid the 6. 3.5 and only 215hp is pretty weak. The interior is made of slightly better quality plastics than my Cobalt and the lighting feels a little more calming. I can't tell you anything more useful becuase I haven't driven it. It was the car I voted for.

I don't like the design of the new Accord. I feel differently about the Coupe however. The new Malibu is nice. Some WASPs in my neighborhood bought one and I was peaking in on it. The General is definitely trying harder with interior and exterior design. I think it looks a bit awkward from some angles but stands out from the crowd. I'd have one over the Camry.

The new "taurus"/ "sable" sucks per Alan Mulally and Derrick Kuzak so no one in hell can vote for it.

Posted by: Clockwork Feb 8 2008, 05:25 PM

I voted for the malibu, not just for the car itself but for the fact GM seems to be coming out of its drunken stooper and making cars that are actually visually appealing (Corvette excluded)

Posted by: moethepaki Feb 9 2008, 02:27 AM

^ Huh? The Malibu's visually appealing and the Corvette isn't?

Posted by: slip Feb 10 2008, 03:38 PM

went with the accord.

I honestly can't believe someone voted for the avenger

Posted by: Mr b00st Feb 10 2008, 11:57 PM

voted for the Accord, it's easily the best among them. Second would be the new Malbu, followed by Taurus/Sable, then Aura Green line, then the simply awful Dodge Avenger.

Posted by: b0mb3r Feb 11 2008, 06:56 PM

is this even a contest? accord all the way, followed closely by malibu

Posted by: clarkma5 Feb 14 2008, 05:12 PM

Just a reminder; this is the first poll that got posted and is thus the first to close and it will do so in just two days!

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