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GolfuletzStudio
post Jan 27 2012, 08:58 AM
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somebody here use Virtualrig , i have some questions

for wheels, use still virtual rig or photoshop or on actually loction make photo with the wheel speening ?

if somebody have some tutorials
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Mr.D
post Jan 27 2012, 12:06 PM
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Tried it a couple of times and it seems impossible in vr. I would be intrested in hearing from someone like Continentals how he does it...
Location seems to be the easiest way to do it.
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post Jan 27 2012, 01:03 PM
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i tried too and with lot of working it works . but i need to try on loction
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post Jan 27 2012, 01:08 PM
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But did you manage to do it with a wheel that was not totally straight? it always seem to swirl too much.
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post Jan 27 2012, 01:13 PM
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the car was shooting from back 3/4 and side , and a wheel hard to edit in motion , bbs rs with lip 10J, now i m just in testing some processing for that
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post Jan 28 2012, 05:05 AM
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Your best bet it to massage the wheel into a circle again using Photoshop transform, and then apply radial blur. After that, you can transform it back to its original shape, and the blur should be fairly realistic. Of course, be careful with brake calipers, they shouldn't be spinning. ;-)
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post Jan 28 2012, 05:25 PM
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yes i try this way too and works quite oky , but when it weather will be ok , i ll try on location
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post Jan 31 2012, 11:16 AM
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first try
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post Jan 31 2012, 10:28 PM
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I like that. Except for the fact that the guy is looking at the camera, not the road.
Also, maybe try and bring out some highlights on the car. Good, clean shot though.
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post Feb 1 2012, 01:04 AM
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thanks i will do better and better in time tongue.gif
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post Feb 1 2012, 03:10 PM
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How is the software to use?

I have been looking at it for a while.. but have been holding off due to the cost.
I was offered a trial on the full version but haven't used it as I know I will want it strait away! LOL.
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post Feb 1 2012, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(Spoolin @ Feb 1 2012, 03:10 PM) *
How is the software to use?

I have been looking at it for a while.. but have been holding off due to the cost.
I was offered a trial on the full version but haven't used it as I know I will want it strait away! LOL.


It's pretty good an rather intuitive, but if you don't know what a rig shot should look like, you'll get bad or unrealistic results, like the image Ciprian posted above. The blur speed and direction simply isn't what a camera would have actually captured. There's too much curvature on the ground and too little blur on the far background. It's like it goes from a fast blur to almost nothing in an instant, rather than slowly tapering in. But again this is user error, not the software's fault.

The problem is it's a lot of money for a piece of software that only does one thing (motion blurs). However it does that one thing REALLY REALLY well. Whether or not it's worth the cost depends on your clients and shooting schedule. For many it will be unreasonable, but for others it can offer tremendous cost savings.
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post Feb 1 2012, 03:34 PM
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This can be done to a certain level in Photoshop too, although it's a bit tedious. Stroking paths with the smudge tool is the basic idea.
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post Feb 1 2012, 07:46 PM
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GolfuletzStudio - the VirtualRig software doesn't allow you to "blur" the wheels, so did you create the motion in Photoshop or take a shot with them spinning (jacked the car up)?
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post Feb 2 2012, 09:28 AM
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Sean , yes tht s my error , but i was to excited for the first time

OZ - yes u can in photoshop but , it s simple with jacked the car up

i wait for good weather to try new shotos
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post Feb 2 2012, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(GolfuletzStudio @ Feb 2 2012, 09:28 AM) *
Sean , yes tht s my error , but i was to excited for the first time

OZ - yes u can in photoshop but , it s simple with jacked the car up

i wait for good weather to try new shotos



I totally understand, the first few renders I did looked like shit. It takes a while to get everything figured out. Although I've seen some ad shots that have renders that look worse than that lol.
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post Feb 3 2012, 05:21 AM
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you use only wheels from location ? or u use photohop for blur the wheels ?
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post Feb 10 2012, 12:07 AM
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select the wheel, deselect caliper/ rotor if need be. create new layer of the selection. transform it so that the wheel is a true circle (if its at an angle it will be more oval than circle, but if shot straight on your lucky and wont have to deal with this bc its a pita). radial blur to taste (if you did not transform it to a true circle then it will look like doo doo, it only works if its as close to a true circle as possible). transform it back to its original shape (pita if its at an angle and all oval shaped).

thats what ive been doing anyways...
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post Feb 15 2012, 10:05 AM
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another atempt

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post Feb 15 2012, 03:08 PM
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Why don't you just use a real rig?

Would look better
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