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post Jan 15 2006, 08:15 PM
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The SS sedan/Maxx arrives with a 3.9-litre V6 engine that generates 240 hp @ 5,900 rpm and 241 lb.-ft. torque at 2,800 rpm.

The SS engine is a more powerful version of the 3.5-litre V6, and although it features variable valve timing, this is a comparatively old pushrod design with an iron block and two valves per cylinder.


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post Jan 15 2006, 08:40 PM
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the wagon is not bad, but its all bland to me


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post Jan 15 2006, 08:51 PM
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post Jan 15 2006, 09:02 PM
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how can you have pushrods and VVT?
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post Jan 15 2006, 09:02 PM
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OLD TECHNOLOGY

hurray for GM pushrod engines! rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 15 2006, 09:10 PM
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Well, I think if these cars were offered with a proper manual transmission, it would be an interesting package. Clearly, GM is actively attempting to shed it's dinosaur image. The engne may be low-tech but at least it has a lot of low-end torque.
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I just did a quick check...and I dont think VVT and Pushrods go together...so either the article got copied wrong, or the author is an idiot.
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post Jan 15 2006, 09:34 PM
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they do have VVT.

i don't know why no manual is offered, it is on the G6 GTP.
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post Jan 15 2006, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(leif @ Jan 15 2006, 09:15 PM) *
I just did a quick check...and I dont think VVT and Pushrods go together...so either the article got copied wrong, or the author is an idiot.

actually it is in fact a pushrod with variable valve timing...the world's first
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post Jan 15 2006, 11:58 PM
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Oh cool, another boring Chevy with an SS badge.

$33k? Where's that money going? About $17k at the most for the car then another $16k markup for Chevy? ICK
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post Jan 16 2006, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(Cyclone @ Jan 15 2006, 11:58 PM) *
Oh cool, another boring Chevy with an SS badge.

$33k? Where's that money going? About $17k at the most for the car then another $16k markup for Chevy? ICK

3k goes to employees' painkillers addictions
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post Jan 16 2006, 12:03 AM
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People work for GM? I thought they laid everyone off tongue.gif
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post Jan 16 2006, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(Cyclone @ Jan 16 2006, 12:03 AM) *
People work for GM? I thought they laid everyone off tongue.gif


They should...and then fill the positions with non-union workers. They would save a lot of money.
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post Jan 16 2006, 12:09 AM
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why invent a pushrod engine with VVT? why not just install a steam engine...im sure it would get better MPG
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post Jan 16 2006, 04:45 AM
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post Jan 16 2006, 04:53 AM
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Can someone please explain to me, with atcual proof and data why pushrods are still in use...are they superior to OHC engines? It just seems like GM has a serious hardon for these things, to the point where they are developing seriously complicated systems to work with pushrods (it cant have been easy to mate VVT and pushrods...and I have to ask...why the fuck would you bother??)
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post Jan 16 2006, 05:20 AM
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QUOTE(leif @ Jan 16 2006, 07:53 AM) *
Can someone please explain to me, with atcual proof and data why pushrods are still in use...are they superior to OHC engines? It just seems like GM has a serious hardon for these things, to the point where they are developing seriously complicated systems to work with pushrods (it cant have been easy to mate VVT and pushrods...and I have to ask...why the fuck would you bother??)


Have no idea...it is like some computer geek deciding to try and overclock an original Pentium up to today's standards just for the hell of it. Ford & GM complain about people making their companies seem like dinos but then they trot out technology like live rear axles & pushrods in what is supposed to be their performance machines.
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post Jan 16 2006, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE(bing5500 @ Jan 16 2006, 08:20 AM) *
Have no idea...it is like some computer geek deciding to try and overclock an original Pentium up to today's standards just for the hell of it. Ford & GM complain about people making their companies seem like dinos but then they trot out technology like live rear axles & pushrods in what is supposed to be their performance machines.


Actually some computer geeks do try that... for the hell of it tongue.gif You probably knew that already.

And yeah, you're right about American car technology. At least the leaf springs in the C6 give it some excellent handling...somehow, I guess they just got lucky with that one.
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post Jan 16 2006, 05:57 AM
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They should...and then fill the positions with non-union workers. They would save a lot of money.


Well, they already do that in GM plants in Mexico... and the build quality shows.
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post Jan 16 2006, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE(leif @ Jan 16 2006, 06:53 AM) *
Can someone please explain to me, with atcual proof and data why pushrods are still in use...are they superior to OHC engines? It just seems like GM has a serious hardon for these things, to the point where they are developing seriously complicated systems to work with pushrods (it cant have been easy to mate VVT and pushrods...and I have to ask...why the fuck would you bother??)


I still have no idea why people continue to argue this. While I do not fully understand the merits of either system I don't see it as a negative against the car. If you're going for 'newer is better' why not just eliminate camshafts and use solenoids to open your valves? It's a different way of getting the job done and I'm sure each system has benefits and drawbacks.

I have to ask why do you care? Are you not going to buy one vs. the other? It's obvious you know nothing about the subject but are married to the idea of OHC. Define fanboy for me.
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