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Which version do you prefer ?
Which version do you prefer ?
Fedora Core [ 2 ] ** [18.18%]
Red Hat [ 5 ] ** [45.45%]
Suse [ 1 ] ** [9.09%]
Gentoo [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
FreeBSD [ 1 ] ** [9.09%]
others [ 2 ] ** [18.18%]
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dukenukem
post Feb 23 2005, 08:51 PM
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I am looking at getting a second OS on my PC. I am leaning towards Fedora Core but i am always open to suggestions. Also, i am gonna be using it to develop applications for wireless communications so a large support base is a must. So what do you guys suggest ? smile.gif
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post Feb 23 2005, 09:21 PM
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I prefer the Windows build. tongue.gif
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post Feb 23 2005, 09:37 PM
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oops ... forgot to add " corporate whore " to the list tongue.gif
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post Feb 23 2005, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(Viper007Bond @ Feb 24 2005, 12:21 AM)
I prefer the Windows build. tongue.gif

Viperbond is such a fag some days. He's like, half cool, then not.
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post Feb 24 2005, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(DakianDelomast @ Feb 23 2005, 10:38 PM)
Viperbond is such a fag some days. He's like, half cool, then not.

Haha. Point me out when I'm not being cool and I'll try to better myself. wink.gif


As for this, I'm just kidding. tongue.gif I totally admit Linucks has it's advantages, certainly for certain things, but it's just not for me. I game and have a computer that support running a pretty GUI, so...
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post Feb 24 2005, 03:46 AM
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Two big things here. First, you can no longer download a free version of RedHat nor do they make a personal version. You have buy one of their outrageously expensive "server" distributions. The free version has been carried over to Fedora. Just thought I'd clear that little bit. Second, FreeBSD is not a linux distribution nor should it even be considered in the same ballpark as linux. The file system, layout, organization, defaults, kernel, method used to install extra software, and pretty much the whole thing is radically different. Linux is a spinoff of Unix which is, more or less, based off BSD (which is why I call BSD "more unix than unix itself"). FreeBSD's the most friendly to use out of the BSD bunch (Free, Open, Net, Dragonfly, etc) but I wouldn't recommend a beginner jumping head on in to it.

If you're a noob to this whole thing, go with either SuSE, Fedora, or Progeny Debian. I don't care too much for the bloat of both SuSE and Fedora and would go with Progeny myself but I'm only on a measly little dsl line and don't have a lot of bandwidth to download several iso images. I'd also recommend downloading a cd based distro such as Knoppix to learn the ropes so you don't botch up your hard drive in the whole process.

Should have voted for other. tongue_crossed-eyes.gif
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post Feb 24 2005, 07:04 PM
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I've also looked into getting linux. So if I choose to go with knoppix, what do I do with the iso I downloaded? Just burn the files as an iso with nero and just boot from the CD?
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post Feb 24 2005, 09:01 PM
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yes.

and by the way, i got Fedora Core. will try and install it tonight smile.gif
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post Feb 24 2005, 09:33 PM
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Err, wow. I have not seen a computer throw such a bitchfit in my whole life. I put the knoppix CD in and it tried to boot about 3 times before it told me it was having trouble. Then I told it to boot from the last known good configuration and it booted without loading some of my drivers (no, it wasn't safe mode). So I had to system restore. Luckily I created a restore point right before I did all that. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 25 2005, 01:20 AM
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got the thing installed alright but i need some help here

1) how do it get it to install on 1 specific partion of my secondary HDD with it formating it to its standard.

2) how the fuck do i get that damned VLC to install there ?
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post Feb 25 2005, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE(dukenukem @ Feb 25 2005, 01:20 AM)
got the thing installed alright but i need some help here

1) how do it get it to install on 1 specific partion of my secondary HDD with it formating it to its standard.

2) how the fuck do i get that damned VLC to install there ?

You need to make a seperate partition using PartitionMagic or something similar or use a seperate hard drive. Not sure what VLC is...
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post Feb 25 2005, 03:10 AM
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That's right . You can't have 2 OSs on the same partition . You will need to install it on a new partition and then select the OS you want to use every time you boot up .
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post Feb 25 2005, 06:05 AM
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RH9! got it on my server
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post Feb 25 2005, 08:33 AM
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i have installed it on my secondary hdd but now windows wont read anything from it. also VLC is videolan client and its a open source media player and theat fucker is asking for 6 other download libraries.
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post Feb 25 2005, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(dukenukem @ Feb 25 2005, 08:33 AM)
i have installed it on  my secondary hdd but now windows wont read anything from it. also VLC is videolan client and its a open source media player and theat fucker is asking for 6 other download libraries.

laugh.gif Welcome to the horrible land that is the RPM package management system. Install the RPM version of apt (Debian package system) then installing things is easy as typing "apt-get install vlc-client" or something similar. BTW, I should have recommended SuSE, it has YaST which is a pretty sweet graphical package installer that automagically downloads any dependancies so things just work.

As for the whole windows thing, I forget exactly what you need to do to make the windows bootmanager see the linux partition. Modify the boot.ini or something similar (Google it). Also, Windows is very picky about what kind of partition types it will read (MS ones) and won't (everything else). You're pretty much up s-creek if you want Windows to see and read the linux partition.

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[10:25:35] [weasel@neowulf] [weasel]% uname -a
FreeBSD neowulf.lazy-fox.net 4.10-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #1: Thu Feb 10 18:07:31 PST 2005 weasel@neowulf.lazy-fox.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEOWULF i386

[10:25:55] [weasel@hiryu] [~]% uname -a
FreeBSD hiryu.local 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386

Haven't gotten around to compiling a custom kernel for hiryu yet since I just built the machine yesterday out of some spare parts I had lying around. tongue.gif
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post Feb 25 2005, 10:33 AM
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^^^Damn , man . Slow down . You'll get a case of extreme geekyness if you kepp going on like that .
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post Feb 25 2005, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(McKhaos @ Feb 25 2005, 10:33 AM)
^^^Damn , man . Slow down . You'll get a case of extreme geekyness if you kepp going on like that .

biggrin.gif Just a little bored, actually. I just like tinkering with stuff and operating systems happened to one of the things I found interesting.
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post Feb 25 2005, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(DakianDelomast @ Feb 25 2005, 01:12 PM)
Nmapped anyone lately Karma?

Just a hacker who tried to break in to my server to get some revenge. tongue_crossed-eyes.gif
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I run Debian and Ubuntu on my machines. As many will tell you, RPM based distributions aren't very awesome; they aren't just internet retards, they're right. I think the only good options when it comes to Linux are Debian (and spinoffs, Ubuntu, Bonzai, etc.) and Gentoo. I would suggest Ubuntu out of those as it makes everything quite easy from the get go. Gentoo has a handful (few) packages that Debian doesn't, but it's not that many and you'll be a lot happier than some Gentoo-kiddie who's waiting for everything to compile for hours on end. Make sure to come here and ask questions, it'll make your life a lot easier. Feel free to IM me as well. Have fun!

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Tycho:~$ uname -a
Darwin Tycho.local 7.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc

~$ uname -a
Linux geek 2.6.10-OMG_EXTREME_Edition #2 Tue Jan 25 16:55:53 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

~> uname -a
SunOS fury 5.9 Generic_112233-11 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-Enterprise

-bash-2.05b# uname -a
FreeBSD neverforget.csh.rit.edu 4.10-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p3 #0: Mon Oct 25 13:59:21 EDT 2004 root@neverforget.csh.rit.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEVERFORGET i386

I've run quite a lot of different Linux/BSDs in the past 8 years and I can conclusively say that BSD isn't nearly as maintainable or fun. Stick to Linux.
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