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joker69
post Apr 24 2012, 05:29 AM
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Hola DS

Here are some teasers of my project. A book will be out in less than two years. I really hope you like them. Some of you live in LA and some of you visit LA frequently. But maybe you've never seen this in the city of angels.


(Varrio Lokotes Watts)



(Hawthorne 13 lil Watts Gang)



(Hawthorne 13 lil Watts Gang)



(Florencia13 lil Rascals clique)



(Florencia13 Gangsters clique)



(Avenues Drew Street clique)



(ES nd WS Primera Flats)



(WS Primera Flats 23rd street clique)



(MS-13 francis locos clique)



(MS-13 francis locos clique)



(Echo Park Locos)



(SS Playboys Enanos clique)



(ex-member of WS Playboys Gang)



(WS the Block)



(Whittier DeadEnd Locos)



"overlooking" (Varrio Geraghty Lomas)



(Varrio Geraghty Lomas)



"paying respect" (Whittier Deadend Locos)



"R.I.P" (Whittier Deadend Locos)



"watch out" (Sly of Toonerville13)



"smoking wax" (south side playboys enanos click)




i really hope you like those pictures. If you have any questions feel free to ask.


You can find more on my facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/andresherrenphotography

or on my website: http://andresherren.com



alrato

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Daz
post Apr 24 2012, 06:56 AM
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They are nice shots but they aren't your usual tough gritty images that I like. The high key on some of them makes them look all wrong considering they are meant to be tough gang members.
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joker69
post Apr 24 2012, 07:30 AM
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thanks Daz for your Feedback. All those pictures are taken during bright sunlight. So it was hard to get that gritty look. I think the white background makes them look softer.
You're right that they're tuff gangbangers, but i don't wanted to look them meaner that they are.

btw the white background is from the prints. i think they would look grittier with a black background.

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post Apr 24 2012, 09:51 AM
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I agree with what Daz has said.
I'm keen to see what the book will look like.

I have some questions, that I'd appreciate if you answered (if you can), because I'm fairly ignorant and clueless when it comes to these Hispanic gangs...

Do these dudes have jobs? Or are they genuine gangsters, as in robbers, drug dealers, thieves, in other words criminals?
Have any of these dudes killed or raped people?
You have images of a few different gangs/cliques here. Are these rival cliques? Do they fight/hate/kill each other?
How did you get in with these gangs?
Does any sketchy shit (criminal activity) happen while you're there with them?

Sorry for the questions, but the only shit I know about the gangs are the stuff the movies portray, and I'm fairly certain that a lot of that is for the sake of the movie.

Thanks
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post Apr 24 2012, 11:14 AM
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i actually really like the white, its a real cool touch you don't see too often in portraits, i love these. If i took you two years, i wonder how many have died since.

Great job, il buy the book! you're producing one right?
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post Apr 24 2012, 04:16 PM
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Wow, some great stuff in here. I might have to contact you about a print or two in the near future.
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:08 PM
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really feeling the vibe/setting in these. great job mane!
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:24 PM
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By hispanic you mean mexican... I'm pretty sure all those gangs are mexico affiliated haha.. Nice shots tho
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post Apr 24 2012, 11:42 PM
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I have no idea how you're not dead yet. But then again, my ignorance about LA gangs is as much as Oliver's.
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post Apr 25 2012, 01:03 AM
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Thank ya'll for your comments and critism. I'd like to answer some questions

@OHirtenfelder
I don't wanna tell which Gangster made which criminal act, but i can tell you in general.

Do these dudes have jobs? Or are they genuine gangsters, as in robbers, drug dealers, thieves, in other words criminals?
=> Some of em have a normal daytime job, some of em work on the streets. The means collecting taxes, selling narco, extortion oder other things...

Have any of these dudes killed or raped people?
=> Yes, at least two of em killed someone. One of em killed his first rival at age 12. Do they don't rape. The gang internal laws forbid rapes. I know a homie who stabbed his cell mate because he was a rapist.

You have images of a few different gangs/cliques here. Are these rival cliques? Do they fight/hate/kill each other?
=> Yes all of em are from different gangs or cliques. Some of em are rivals. LA county, SGV, SFV is a huuge area. Maybe a gang from the sgv don't care about a gang in south central. But yes, i shoot some rival gangs and they do kill eachother. Example MS-13 vs 18th Street

How did you get in with these gangs?
=> It depends from gang to gang. Sometimes i drove around those neighborhoods (varrios) and when i saw a gangmember i approached him. Some gangs asked me to shoot.

Does any sketchy shit (criminal activity) happen while you're there with them?
=> Yes, i saw a lot of bullshit going on


Bout the book. It will look different. These picturese here are just portraits and they look this way cause of an exhibition. I gonna show more of theyr lifestyle, varrios, houses in the book.


@DonJuanMair

Thanks mate. The book gonna be released in two years.


@Pendulum

Would be great. I have several prints for sale.


@Swams555

Not all of em are mexicanos or chicanos. Like MS-13 or 18th Street has a lot members from central america


@Seethegrim

Yeah, i had 2-3 horrible situations. Sometimes i tought my life's over now.


Thank you all for your comments. And sorry for my bad english


Andres
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post Apr 25 2012, 01:15 AM
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will there be any stories to go along side the pics?
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post Apr 25 2012, 01:21 AM
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Yes i gonna tell stories about some gangmembers. Some historical information and i wanna tell about theyr situation (business, location, enemies and more)
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post Apr 25 2012, 06:45 AM
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you know that i LOVE your pics SOO much Andres. I'm so happy about the result of your works. As for Anthony: I'm waiting for the book man!!!!!
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post Apr 25 2012, 07:09 AM
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Pretty extraordinary project, very nice work. I'm interested to see the final result. I'll just say good luck with the editing process. Deciding which photos should be included and which should not is really tough, get the opinions of others, think extra hard about the photos that people are saying are not as good.
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post Apr 25 2012, 07:13 AM
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Andres, thanks for the response. I really appreciate it.

I wasn't asking who did what, so yeah, you answered the question the way I had intended.

Just another thing about the whole rival gangs thing...do they know that you shoot the rival gangs? How do they feel about it? Don't some of them think that maybe you're siding with the one gang and you're trying to find out stuff about the others, or some bullshit like that?

Thanks again, for answering the questions, and for sharing your images (especially the ones of those incredibly hot women DS_Naughty2.gif )
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post Apr 25 2012, 10:55 AM
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Looking forward to the book man.

I have been an avid fan of your work.

The LA/Barrio lifestyle has always captured my attention - I'd be scared shitless to approach any of these guys...lol.
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post Apr 25 2012, 11:22 AM
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this looks just awesome. It will surely be a pure work of art when you release that book.
Any prereleases/signed ones for us DS'ers? =)
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post Apr 25 2012, 07:33 PM
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I dig the series. Would really like to see some of those lifestyle photos smile.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 07:35 PM
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Amazing work, joker. I can only imagine what you have seen and heard.

I bet some of those guys are probably pretty friendly and others not so much haha.
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post Apr 26 2012, 05:04 AM
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Dude... like I have said before.. always great stuff and I love to see these portraits... it looks like you are deep in there with them... you have managed to gain their trust (to some level)

Anyway... I wanted to point out 1 little thing. It's Barrios... instead of varrios. I might not be a gang member but Spanish is my 1st language. So, if you ever have any questions regarding it let me know.. and keep it up man... smile.gif

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