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> Black Car - Night Time = Frustration, Lambo Superleggara
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post Jul 22 2010, 07:23 PM
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Tried using some advice here, but failed miserably so ended up just using some bare strobes.. not bad for my first attempt IMO



I think thought if this was shot at (say) midnight, I wouldn't have some nat light giving some lines and structure to the car
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post Sep 6 2010, 04:42 AM
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I've been asked to do a shoot of a Black Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 and thought this might be the perfect time to try out this technique rather than using speedlights.

I'm thinking this will be suitable as it covers a large area and is 30W.

Flouro Inspection Lamp

Or would I be better with a smaller one?
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post Sep 6 2010, 04:45 AM
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30W is PLENTY! At least at night.
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post Sep 6 2010, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE(Seethegrim @ Sep 6 2010, 01:45 PM) *
30W is PLENTY! At least at night.

That's good to hear as the others I've seen are alot smaller and are about 8W's so wont be as good.

Can easily run a smaller aperture if the 30W is too bright.

You think the size of the light tube is alright? I suppose I could make a cover to reduce it if I needed.
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post Sep 6 2010, 01:22 PM
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It all depends on how, where and when you want to shoot and with what equipment.
Personally i think the whole point in shooting night time are long exposures with +f16 so you dont get jagged lines.
And unless you shoot in a place that has zero background lighting and its pitch dark you need wattage...
You can do it with 30W if you find the right place, but personally i would go for 10x more.
Most of you guys live in places that dont have that much street lighting.
I have to drive at least 40 minutes to even find a location that has 0 background lighting if I want to shoot outdoors =)
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post Sep 7 2010, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(Mr.D @ Sep 6 2010, 11:22 PM) *
It all depends on how, where and when you want to shoot and with what equipment.
Personally i think the whole point in shooting night time are long exposures with +f16 so you dont get jagged lines.
And unless you shoot in a place that has zero background lighting and its pitch dark you need wattage...
You can do it with 30W if you find the right place, but personally i would go for 10x more.
Most of you guys live in places that dont have that much street lighting.
I have to drive at least 40 minutes to even find a location that has 0 background lighting if I want to shoot outdoors =)


True to all of that. I guess its like any piece of equipment. You get the version that does the job. Then you get the version that does the job & has allowance for more trying situations.
I've always only had a 30W light. And used it in the streets where there are overhead street lights even. Maybe you guys are used to shooting at f16+ because I've always gone with f8 - f16. So maybe my lower powered light has worked for me, but wouldn't for the next guy?
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:03 AM
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QUOTE(Mr.D @ Sep 6 2010, 10:22 PM) *
It all depends on how, where and when you want to shoot and with what equipment.
Personally i think the whole point in shooting night time are long exposures with +f16 so you dont get jagged lines.
And unless you shoot in a place that has zero background lighting and its pitch dark you need wattage...
You can do it with 30W if you find the right place, but personally i would go for 10x more.
Most of you guys live in places that dont have that much street lighting.
I have to drive at least 40 minutes to even find a location that has 0 background lighting if I want to shoot outdoors =)

Thats well put and I'm lucky that I can drive for about 5mins to get to somewhere with no lights so can work around the fact that its not the most powerful light.

I'm not rich so I can't afford to buy several different lights and try them out so if the 30W is ok then I'll go with it and maybe spend more on a better more powerful one in the future.

QUOTE(Seethegrim @ Sep 7 2010, 09:54 AM) *
True to all of that. I guess its like any piece of equipment. You get the version that does the job. Then you get the version that does the job & has allowance for more trying situations.
I've always only had a 30W light. And used it in the streets where there are overhead street lights even. Maybe you guys are used to shooting at f16+ because I've always gone with f8 - f16. So maybe my lower powered light has worked for me, but wouldn't for the next guy?

You got an example of an f8 shot under street lights with the light painting. That would be helpful smile.gif.
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post Sep 7 2010, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Daz @ Sep 7 2010, 03:03 PM) *
You got an example of an f8 shot under street lights with the light painting. That would be helpful smile.gif.


Pretty much everything I've ever shot with light painting has been under street lights (I prefer it because I don't have to do such long exposures for the entire scene).

This is pretty much the only stuff I've done with light painting. I find it very limiting, so more often than not, resort to flash. Except if its a black car.





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post Sep 7 2010, 02:56 PM
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Cracking shots there.

So it's gonna be £30 well spent really. If it doesn't work that well then I've at least got a light to help with working on the car.

Thanks :thumbs:
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post Sep 9 2010, 03:59 PM
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That lambo shot is excellent! Can't wait to see the rest of the series.

Seagram: Nice stuff! On average, how many exposures are you blending for your final result?


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post Sep 10 2010, 05:41 AM
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QUOTE(Seethegrim @ Sep 7 2010, 04:41 PM) *
This is pretty much the only stuff I've done with light painting. I find it very limiting, so more often than not, resort to flash. Except if its a black car.



I love to know what about light painting you find limiting.. other than the fact that it can only be done when dark... I think that's about the only draw back ?
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post Sep 13 2010, 06:11 PM
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Where are the photos, BRASHER?! tongue.gif
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post Oct 5 2010, 03:48 AM
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I've finally pulled my finger out and ordered the light so as soon as it arrives I'll got test it then I can do the shoots of the black cars I've got lined up biggrin.gif
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post Oct 5 2010, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(Dejan Sokolovski @ Sep 14 2010, 12:11 PM) *
Where are the photos, BRASHER?! tongue.gif


Yeah still working on them lol, I've been literally too flat out for any personal works.

It came out well though, very happy with the set.
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post Oct 9 2010, 03:03 PM
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Tried the new light out tonight round my friends house on his car aswell as my own.

Ignore the fact that the car isn't clean in these, was purely to try the light out.

I'm happy for a first attempt.

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post Oct 10 2010, 11:25 AM
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What is your light source, how many exposures?
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post Oct 10 2010, 05:18 PM
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Went out for another try tonight with a Black Honda CR-V

Much better I think biggrin.gif

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post Oct 10 2010, 10:30 PM
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That looks great! Like gdynianek said, whats your lightsource?
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post Oct 13 2010, 02:10 PM
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My tribute to this thread.

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post Oct 14 2010, 07:32 AM
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Here's a collab of me and 'AndWhyNot's' antics a few weeks back. Lightpainting on the car is poor but it was 2am...

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