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DSCOTY '06: Entry-Level Luxury
What is Dieselstation's best Entry-level Luxury car of the year?
Buick Lucerne [ 3 ] ** [5.45%]
Hyundai Azera [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Lincoln Zephyr [ 4 ] ** [7.27%]
Saab 9-5 [ 22 ] ** [40.00%]
Volkswagen Passat 3.6 [ 26 ] ** [47.27%]
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post Dec 9 2005, 03:18 PM
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For more on the Dieselstation Car Of The Year '06 competition, please see this thread.

Buick Lucerne
Base MSRP:
$26,990
Available Engines: 3.8 liter OHV 12-valve V6 with 197 HP and 227 ft.-lbs. of torque; 4.6 liter DOHC 32-valve V8 with 275 HP and 295 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic transmission
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
Curb Weight: 3764-4013 lbs.





Hyundai Azera
Base MSRP:
$25,000 (estimated)
Available Engines: 3.8 liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 263 HP and 255 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 5-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
Curb Weight: 3629 lbs





Lincoln Zephyr
Base MSRP:
$29,660
Available Engines: 3.0 liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 221 HP and 205 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic transmission
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
Curb Weight: 3438 lbs.





Saab 9-5
Base MSRP:
$34,100
Available Engines: 2.3 liter DOHC 16-valve turbocharged inline-4 with 260 HP and 258 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 5-speed manual or 5-speed automatic transmission
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive
Curb Weight: 3470+ lbs.





Volkswagen Passat 3.6
Base MSRP:
$29,950
Available Engines: 3.6 liter DOHC 24-valve narrow-angle V6 with 280 HP and 265 ft.-lbs. of torque.
Available Transmissions: 6-speed automatic transmission with manual shift mode
Available Drivetrains: Front wheel drive or Permanent All-wheel drive
Curb Weight: 3576-3829 lbs.



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post Dec 9 2005, 03:34 PM
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Saab
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post Dec 9 2005, 04:06 PM
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That's a pretty Buick.

The Saab looks amazing.
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post Dec 9 2005, 04:29 PM
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The Saab. More unique and, IMO opinion, more appealing than the Passat.

The Zephyr has awesome interior styling, but mechanically it's just a Ford Fusion, so I couldn't vote for it.
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post Dec 9 2005, 05:24 PM
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Saab... its for nice people.
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post Dec 9 2005, 06:41 PM
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The Saab is enticing because it's quirky and I like the new front end...but the back end is bleh and it's just too old to compete with this crop. The Azera has a technical excellence that I applaud because I always feel like Hyundai is a good company, but it, like the last Avalon, is a bit of a Buick in my eyes. Don't even get me started on the ACTUAL Buick in the poll. Also, the Zephyr is a waaaayyy overpriced Fusion V6 with no discernible reason to buy one.

So that leaves the Passat yet again. Looks great, beautiful interior, a wonderful engine...it's just the best one here.
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post Dec 10 2005, 12:15 AM
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I went with the Lincoln because ever since the LS came out, I've been waiting for another modern Lincoln to like. The Zephyr is certainly that Lincoln, as it looks good and handles well.
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post Dec 10 2005, 10:16 AM
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Saab.. I love the new design.

And that Buick is the most bland car this year, made in a non-Korean country tongue.gif
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post Dec 14 2005, 12:34 AM
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Passat - great value for the money, good looks, distictive German feel
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post Dec 14 2005, 12:13 PM
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Passat, this car is probably the best of VW sedan.
Is a big car, optimally realised with a good price.
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post Dec 14 2005, 08:51 PM
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I voted the Zephyr, I think the Passat is one of the ugliest cars on the road, don't like any new VWs except for the new Golf, and then the Saab would be a close second after the Zephyr I think.
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post Dec 14 2005, 08:53 PM
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The Consumer Guide's review of the new Passat praised the mechanical advances over the previous generation, but said that interior quality was a significant step downward. The plastics felt cheaper and more hollow. Can anyone who has been in both comment?
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post Dec 14 2005, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(Mitlov @ Dec 14 2005, 08:53 PM) *
The Consumer Guide's review of the new Passat praised the mechanical advances over the previous generation, but said that interior quality was a significant step downward. The plastics felt cheaper and more hollow. Can anyone who has been in both comment?


Yeah, I agree with that...something that I can quite put my finger on feels cheaper, though I think the actual design is superior.

I still feel it's the best interior in its class. Its faultless materials quality has just been traded for some slightly cheaper materials put together in a more spacious and good-looking design.
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post Dec 14 2005, 11:58 PM
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I like how people have actually voted for the Buick laugh.gif
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post Dec 15 2005, 10:58 AM
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I voted for the Buick because there is no way I am throwing a vote to any of those other cars, although hyundai gets an honorable mention.
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post Dec 15 2005, 03:52 PM
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1) Saab 9-5, which now comes exclusively with the uprated 2.3 HOT motor, which kicks ass IMO. great power, good fuel economy, and uneffected by elevation thanks to the latest TRIONIC management. Best interior (IMHO) and best styling (IMHO)

2) Passat 3.6. Nice car, but that is a LOT of money for a VW Passat. I appluad the return of the VR6 to the 'sat though.

3) Hyundai Azera. How can you say no? Good power, elegant styling, good reliability, stellar warranty, and a reasonable price. Watch out america

4) Lincoln Zephyr. Handsome, reasonable luxury car.

5) Buick. Meh.
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post Dec 15 2005, 04:23 PM
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Come on, we need just two more votes to tie it up and give the Saab a real shot at victory.

Better yet, Clarkma5, you admitted in another thread that you were kind of rooting for the Saab to win this. How about you SWITCH your vote? That would bring it to 22-22 and cause a tie-breaker vote (if no one else votes).

The Saab deserves to win. Also, interiors are important in entry-level luxury, and while the Passat's interior might be attractively laid out, it's as conservative as a navy two-button suit and looks like every VW/Audi interior from the past decade. The Saab's interior is striking, daring, and unique.

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post Dec 15 2005, 04:24 PM
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I'm rooting for the Saab, yeah, but I still think the Passat is the better car. Don't ask how that works.

As for the interior, the new Passat is actually quite stylish in my book...it still keeps that Teutonic ness, but it's very airy and designer-ey. I think it's an incredibly nice looking interior, and it's a great place to sit. Plus, it's quite a departure compared to other VW interiors of the last decade.
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post Dec 15 2005, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Dec 15 2005, 04:24 PM) *
I'm rooting for the Saab, yeah, but I still think the Passat is the better car. Don't ask how that works.

I won't, because it doesn't make sense.

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As for the interior, the new Passat is actually quite stylish in my book...it still keeps that Teutonic ness, but it's very airy and designer-ey. I think it's an incredibly nice looking interior, and it's a great place to sit. Plus, it's quite a departure compared to other VW interiors of the last decade.

That new interior still looks exactly like your typical ultra-conservative Audi/VW interior. Rounded-rectangle audio/climate console with symmetrically-arranged round knobs. Tennis-ball-shaped gearshift. Four gauges--two large, two small, symmetrically arranged, with chrome bezels surrounding them.

Maybe it's now a well-fitted two-button navy suit, but at the end of the day, it's still a two-button navy suit. It certainly doesn't push the design envelope in the way that Acura, Saab, or BMW interiors do.
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post Dec 15 2005, 05:44 PM
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You think Acura, BMW, and Saab are pushing the design envelope more than VW? That's ridiculous...they are all very conservative.
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